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Author: BeardedBearded Date: Jun 16, 2008 22:47
Greetings from West Thamesmead.
Which if the Evening Standard gets its way will fade into isolation as
a hamlet, disconnected from the rest of London.
For those whose geography is a bit rusty, we're about 1.5miles
downstream from the Woolwich Ferry, facing the the bend in the river.
[Nearest landmark, Belmarsh prison - we're between that and the river]
A lot of people living here commute into Central London or Canary Wharf
- and many of us want to use the JLE from N Greenwich. Sadly, that
involves a local bus [244 or 380], then change to a high frequency
service such as 422 or 472 either at Plumstead Garage or Woolwich town
centre.
All these routes are packed in the rush hour, including lots of mums
with buggies who frequently ignore driver requests to fold - and trust
me, 3 or 4 buggies on a bus which is already at capacity ain't pretty.
Sometimes changing to the 422/472 means letting 2 or 3 full buses pass
before you can board.
The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
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Author: John BJohn B Date: Jun 17, 2008 02:33
On 17 Jun, 06:47, Bearded googlemail.com> wrote:> The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
> dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
> Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
>
> However Andrew Gilligan of the Evening Standard has decided that it is
> too expensive and "a vanity project" for TfL. See
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6qlw8f
>
> Yes, maybe there are savings to be found - but the bottom line is: We
> need a better link to London now! What can we do to counter the Gillgan
> campaign
The problem is, you lot in Thamesmead aren't rich, you don't drive
4x4s or Porsches, you didn't vote Tory and your constituency never
will. So for the next four years, you can go and get bent as far as
the Mayor (and hence TfL's investment priorities) is concerned...
[is this reminder of their true priorities going to stop people voting
Tory in the next election? Don't be silly.]
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Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: Jun 17, 2008 07:44
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, John B wrote:
> On 17 Jun, 06:47, Bearded googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
>> dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
>> Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
>>
>> However Andrew Gilligan of the Evening Standard has decided that it is
>> too expensive and "a vanity project" for TfL. See
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6qlw8f
>>
>> Yes, maybe there are savings to be found - but the bottom line is: We
>> need a better link to London now! What can we do to counter the Gillgan
>> campaign
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: Jun 17, 2008 10:27
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:33:22 -0700 (PDT), John B johnband.org>
wrote:
>The problem is, you lot in Thamesmead aren't rich, you don't drive
>4x4s or Porsches, you didn't vote Tory and your constituency never
>will. So for the next four years, you can go and get bent as far as
>the Mayor (and hence TfL's investment priorities) is concerned...
Pathetic.
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: Jun 17, 2008 10:32
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:47:16 +0100, Bearded
googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>A lot of people living here commute into Central London or Canary Wharf
>- and many of us want to use the JLE from N Greenwich. Sadly, that
>involves a local bus [244 or 380], then change to a high frequency
>service such as 422 or 472 either at Plumstead Garage or Woolwich town
>centre.
>
>All these routes are packed in the rush hour, including lots of mums
>with buggies who frequently ignore driver requests to fold - and trust
>me, 3 or 4 buggies on a bus which is already at capacity ain't pretty.
>Sometimes changing to the 422/472 means letting 2 or 3 full buses pass
>before you can board.
>
>The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
>dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
>Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
So the solution to packed buses is... packed buses. Great.
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Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: Jun 17, 2008 10:47
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, James Farrar wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:47:16 +0100, Bearded
> googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> A lot of people living here commute into Central London or Canary Wharf
>> - and many of us want to use the JLE...
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Author: Paul CorfieldPaul Corfield Date: Jun 17, 2008 12:57
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:47:16 +0100, Bearded
googlemail.com> wrote:
>Greetings from West Thamesmead.
[snip]
>The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
>dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
>Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
>
>
>However Andrew Gilligan of the Evening Standard has decided that it is
>too expensive and "a vanity project" for TfL. See
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6qlw8f
>
>Yes, maybe there are savings to be found - but the bottom line is: We
>need a better link to London now! What can we do to counter the Gillgan
>campaign
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Author: Batman55Batman55 Date: Jun 17, 2008 13:01
"James Farrar" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0tf54h8cs1pod1gjl6bcff9g16clujuvi@4ax.com...> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:33:22 -0700 (PDT), John B johnband.org>
> wrote:
>>>The problem is, you lot in Thamesmead aren't rich, you don't drive
>>4x4s or Porsches, you didn't vote Tory and your constituency never
>>will. So for the next four years, you can go and get bent as far as
>>the Mayor (and hence TfL's investment priorities) is concerned...
>
> Pathetic.
Presumably, the answer is to go with the tide and VOTE Tory next time,
thereby earning brownie points and interest in "your" scheme (if that's what
you believe dictates these things).
MaxB
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Author: Arthur FiggisArthur Figgis Date: Jun 17, 2008 14:49
Paul Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:47:16 +0100, Bearded
> googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Greetings from West Thamesmead.
>
> [snip]
>
>> The answer to our prayers is the Greenwich Waterfront Transit - with
>> dedicated busways or bus lanes linking N Greenwich / Charlton /
>> Woolwich / West Thamesmead and Thamesmead.
>>
>>
>> However Andrew Gilligan of the Evening Standard has decided that it is
>> too expensive and "a vanity project" for TfL. See
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6qlw8f
>>
>> Yes, maybe there are savings to be found - but the bottom line is: We
>> need a better link to London now! What can we do to counter the Gillgan ...
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Jun 17, 2008 19:40
Paul Corfield wrote:
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> I saw that article today. I thought it was so very generous of Mr
> Gilligan, the Evening Standard and Associated Newspapers to believe
> that they had been elected and they had any say in what TfL spends
> its money on. Strangely I don't recall seeing them as candidates on
> my ballot paper.
A curious argument, Paul, since not only do you believe the media should be
banned from having opinions, you also believe the man who actually won the
election should be banned from having opinions.
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