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Re: FGW Oystercard PAYG         


Author: Colin McKenzie
Date: Sep 21, 2008 15:19

Mizter T wrote:
> On 21 Sep, 15:30, "Recliner" clara.co_dot_uk> wrote:
>> "Matthew Dickinson" gmail.com> wrote:
>>> First Great Western will accept Oyster Pay As You Go at all stations
>>> between Paddington and West Drayton or Greenford from the 21st
>>> September, according to a leaflet I picked up at Ealing Broadway
>>> yesterday. The fares and peak periods will be the same as for the
>>> tube.

They accepted mine from Ealing Broadway on Heathrow Connect on Thursday.
The guard had a reader to confirm I had some credit on the card.
>> As a matter of interest, how do you get charged on a pre-pay Oyster card
>> if the journey involves both NR and LU, with an out of barrier change --
>> eg, if you take FGW from, say, Ealing Broadway...
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Re: FGW Oystercard PAYG         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Sep 21, 2008 15:57

On 21 Sep, 23:19, Colin McKenzie proof-read.co.uk> wrote:
> Mizter T wrote:
>> On 21 Sep, 15:30, "Recliner" clara.co_dot_uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Matthew Dickinson" gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> First Great Western will accept Oyster Pay As You Go at all stations
>>>> between Paddington and  West Drayton or Greenford from the 21st
>>>> September, according to a leaflet I picked up at Ealing Broadway
>>>> yesterday. The fares and peak periods will be the same as for the
>>>> tube.
>
> They accepted mine from Ealing Broadway on Heathrow Connect on Thursday.
> The guard had a reader to confirm I had some credit on the card.

FGW (and Heathrow Connect) have accepted Oyster PAYG for journeys
between Greenford, Ealing Broadway and Paddington since May - but
*not* at intermediate stations on the Greenford line, nor at stations
any further west than Ealing Broadway. See Mr Dickinson's post here
from the time:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport.london/msg/4760143b1829fb83
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Re: FGW Oystercard PAYG         


Date: Sep 22, 2008 03:22

"Mizter T" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:76a12d48-879d-48cb-9541-e0ceb6a257c4@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
> On 21 Sep, 15:30, "Recliner" clara.co_dot_uk> wrote:
>
>> "Matthew Dickinson" gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> First Great Western will accept Oyster Pay As You Go at all stations
>>> between Paddington and West Drayton or Greenford from the 21st
>>> September, according to a leaflet I picked up at Ealing Broadway
>>> yesterday. The fares and peak periods will be the same as for the
>>> tube.
>>
>> As a matter of interest, how do you get charged on a pre-pay Oyster
>> card if the journey involves both NR and LE, with an out of barrier
>> change -- eg, if you take FGW from, say, Ealing Broadway to
>> Paddington, then change to the Circle from Paddington to, say, Baker
>> Street? Is it treated as a single zone 1-3 journey, or a zone 1-3
>> plus a zone 1 journey? And, presumably, the same rule applies with
>> other operators, such as Chiltern or even London Overground?
>> ...
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Re: FGW Oystercard PAYG         


Author: Michael R N Dolbear
Date: Sep 22, 2008 08:32

MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote
[...]
>> Kings Cross from Finsbury Park etc etc - in all of these cases (and
>> many others) where one must exit and re-enter through gates the
Oyster
>> system merely counts it as a continuation of the original journey.
> This kind of progress and integration more and more shows up the
unfairness and illogic of buses still charging per vehicle instead of
per journey.
> After 1900 and at the weekends I can make a journey across London on
three different systems: NR, LU and DLR, that is cheaper than catching
two buses, let alone how many it would take to cover the same distance
in a slower and less comfortable way.

Given the £3.00 Bus cap this isn't a big deal.

However the problem will be rather more visible when tube 9:30-16:00
counts as Off-peak from January 2009 :
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Re: FGW Oystercard PAYG         


Author: MIG
Date: Sep 22, 2008 08:58

On 22 Sep, 16:32, "Michael R N Dolbear" privacy.net> wrote:
> MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote
>         [...]
>
>>> Kings Cross from Finsbury Park etc etc - in all of these cases (and
>>> many others) where one must exit and re-enter through gates the
> Oyster
>>> system merely counts it as a continuation of the original journey.
>> This kind of progress and integration more and more shows up the
>
> unfairness and illogic of buses still charging per vehicle instead of
> per journey.
>
>> After 1900 and at the weekends I can make a journey across London on
>
> three different systems: NR, LU and DLR, that is cheaper than catching
> two buses, let alone how many it would take to cover the same distance
> in a slower and less comfortable way.
>
> Given the £3.00 Bus cap this isn't a big deal. ...
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