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FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Jack Taylor
Date: Apr 13, 2008 10:14

Can somebody please remind me of current policy regarding buying add-on
tickets from Boundary Zone 6 on the GN (which don't exist these days, they
are issued from Hadley Wood, the boundary station) to stations beyond,
specifically Huntingdon/Peterborough, when purchased as add-ons to an
all-zones season ticket Travelcard?

*Is* it necessary to stop at the boundary station when making such a
journey? My understanding had always been that it was not, which was borne
out by the number of times that I've bought them, without problems, over the
years and had them inspected - without question. However, I recently had a
run-in with an over-zealous ticket office clerk at King's Cross, who refused
to sell me an add-on to my season ticket and insisted that I should buy a
King's Cross to Peterborough ticket instead. After I showed him the return
half of the previous one that I had bought and never been questioned on, he
capitulated.
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Neil Williams
Date: Apr 13, 2008 10:19

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:14:44 GMT, "Jack Taylor" Carney.co.uk>
wrote:
>Can somebody please remind me of current policy regarding buying add-on
>tickets from Boundary Zone 6 on the GN (which don't exist these days, they
>are issued from Hadley Wood, the boundary station)

They should not be - they should be issued from "BOUNDARY ZONE 6" as
they are on every other route. If they're not, they are a traditional
ticket combination and so the train must stop unless one of them is a
season.

Neil

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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Mr Thant
Date: Apr 13, 2008 10:21

Jack Taylor wrote:
> My
> understanding of the current situation was that it was necessary to stop at
> the boundary station when "transferring" between two tickets, except where
> the ticket is an add-on to a season ticket.

Section 19 (c) of the Conditions of Carriage concurs:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/system/galleries/download/misc/NRCOC.pdf

(TfL is not a PTE)

U

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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Barry Salter
Date: Apr 14, 2008 09:22

Jack Taylor wrote:
> Can somebody please remind me of current policy regarding buying add-on
> tickets from Boundary Zone 6 on the GN (which don't exist these days, they
> are issued from Hadley Wood, the boundary station) to stations beyond,
> specifically Huntingdon/Peterborough, when purchased as add-ons to an
> all-zones season ticket Travelcard?

CDR Boundary Zone 6 - Huntingdon is showing as £16.00, SDR as £17.50,
and SVR is £19.00.

For Hadley Wood - Huntingdon, the figures are £16.00 CDR, £17.00 SDR and
£19.00 SVR.

There aren't any Boundary Zone 6 - Peterborough tickets, however,
presumably due to PBO being outside the Network Area.
> *Is* it necessary to stop at the boundary station when making such a
> journey?

Only if the "other" ticket is *NOT* a Season ticket, as per Condition 19
of the NCoC.

HTH,

Barry
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Apr 14, 2008 09:36

On 13 Apr, 18:19, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams)
wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:14:44 GMT, "Jack Taylor" Carney.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Can somebody please remind me of current policy regarding buying add-on
>>tickets from Boundary Zone 6 on the GN (which don't exist these days, they
>>are issued from Hadley Wood, the boundary station)
>
> They should not be - they should be issued from "BOUNDARY ZONE 6" as
> they are on every other route. If they're not, they are a traditional
> ticket combination and so the train must stop unless one of them is a
> season.
>

Which, in the case of the OP, it is - he has (in his words) an "all-
zones season ticket Travelcard".
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Jack Taylor
Date: Apr 14, 2008 14:05

Mizter T wrote:
> On 13 Apr, 18:19, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams)
> wrote:
>>
>> They should not be - they should be issued from "BOUNDARY ZONE 6" as
>> they are on every other route. If they're not, they are a
>> traditional ticket combination and so the train must stop unless one
>> of them is a season.
>
> Which, in the case of the OP, it is - he has (in his words) an "all-
> zones season ticket Travelcard".
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Clive D. W. Feather
Date: Apr 15, 2008 03:03

In article <66helmF2jqjclU1@mid.individual.net>, Barry Salter
nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>> *Is* it necessary to stop at the boundary station when making such a
>>journey?
>Only if the "other" ticket is *NOT* a Season ticket, as per Condition
>19 of the NCoC.

Note, by the way, that a "Boundary Zone" ticket is *not* a separate
ticket for the purposes of NCoC 19. Rather, it's a receipt for the
additional fare to extend your journey, so that your Travelcard
*becomes* the ticket valid for the journey to the named station.

[This was hammered into me the other day when Kentish Town actually
issued me a "zonal extension", on LU stock, when I asked for a BZ6 to
Luton ticket. The gates at Luton were happy with it, though.]

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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Apr 15, 2008 05:37

On 15 Apr, 11:03, "Clive D. W. Feather" train.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <66helmF2jqjc...@mid.individual.net>, Barry Salter
> nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>>> *Is* it necessary to stop at the boundary station when making such a
>>>journey?
>>Only if the "other" ticket is *NOT* a Season ticket, as per Condition
>>19 of the NCoC.
>
> Note, by the way, that a "Boundary Zone" ticket is *not* a separate
> ticket for the purposes of NCoC 19. Rather, it's a receipt for the
> additional fare to extend your journey, so that your Travelcard
> *becomes* the ticket valid for the journey to the named station.
>
> [This was hammered into me the other day when Kentish Town actually
> issued me a "zonal extension", on LU stock, when I asked for a BZ6 to
> Luton ticket. The...
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: Clive D. W. Feather
Date: Apr 15, 2008 10:20

In article
t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Mizter T gmail.com> writes
>> [This was hammered into me the other day when Kentish Town actually
>> issued me a "zonal extension", on LU stock, when I asked for a BZ6 to
>> Luton ticket. The gates at Luton were happy with it, though.]
>
>Most interesting. Can you provide some more information as to how it
>was issued - did it actually state "zonal extension" in those words on
>the ticket,

I'm fairly sure it did (I was running out of time before the train
arrived, so I only glanced at it). It certainly did not carry either the
term "Boundary Zone 6" or "Luton" on it.
>did it cost the right amount (i.e. what you'd be charged
>if you bought it as a National Rail ticket office), was it correctly
>discounted as per your Gold Card etc?

I think so. The seller looked up the fare in a list which certainly had
Luton as the row heading, and then went to a discount table. I paid
4.25; is that the right price for a single with Gold Card discount?
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Re: FCC (GN) Z6 Boundary Extension Ticketing         


Author: JB
Date: Apr 19, 2008 01:33

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:03:09 +0100, "Clive D. W. Feather"
on-the-train.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <66helmF2jqjclU1@mid.individual.net>, Barry Salter
>nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>>> *Is* it necessary to stop at the boundary station when making such a
>>>journey?
>>Only if the "other" ticket is *NOT* a Season ticket, as per Condition
>>19 of the NCoC.
>
>Note, by the way, that a "Boundary Zone" ticket is *not* a separate
>ticket for the purposes of NCoC 19. Rather, it's a receipt for the
>additional fare to extend your journey, so that your Travelcard
>*becomes* the ticket valid for the journey to the named station.
>
>[This was hammered into me the other day when Kentish Town actually
>issued me a "zonal extension", on LU stock, when I asked for a BZ6 to
>Luton ticket. The gates at Luton were happy with it, though.]
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