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Author: Colin RosenstielColin Rosenstiel Date: Dec 28, 2006 09:22
In article fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
eastend@nospam.com (eastender) wrote:
>> I've had an oyster card since they first came out funnily enough.
>> And well done to you for getting a card though since you're a regular
>> on this group I suspect you already knew about them. I doubt the
>> same can be said for 99%% of tourists who come here however. Do you
>> read up on the ticketing of the metro and bus systems in every
>> foreign city you visit before you go in case you get screwed by some
>> megalomanic mayor and his patsies by not coughing up a deposit
>> beforehand to buy the local smartcard?
>
> What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems -
> why wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to
> 'read up' on them - you can just go to a ticket office or machine
> and buy one in most cities I've been to.
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Author: Sky RiderSky Rider Date: Dec 28, 2006 11:42
> It's mostly the cost of completely rebuilding Blackfriars (which
> seriously needs it). I'm not sure if London Bridge is included as well.
London Bridge (and Farringdon) will also undergo major transformations -
London Bridge in particular will require a hell of a lot of capital.
As for King's Cross Thameslink - good riddance. Bring on next Christmas!
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Author: David of BroadwayDavid of Broadway Date: Dec 29, 2006 06:49
Mizter T wrote:
> In the situation you describe in your original post I'm almost certain
> that no deposit would be required. None of the publicity I've seen has
> ever suggested that there is anything that complicates the 'deposit is
> waived if buying a Travelcard on Oyster' rule.
Thanks.
Unfortunately, the person on whose behalf I asked never got to test it
out. Here's what happened to him:
http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=360348
I've never heard of that happening. Was there any way he could have
avoided paying the cash fare? And if he had had an Oyster, wouldn't he
have been hit with the £4 penalty for forgetting to touch in? --
David of Broadway
New York, NY
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Author: Colin RosenstielColin Rosenstiel Date: Dec 28, 2006 04:35
> Seems Kuddly Ken has decided that its now fine to charge someone 4
> quid for a single fare via zone 1. I'm presuming that this is to force
> people onto Oyster. Or is it perhaps to stop visitors to the city
> from using public transport? Possbily a health drive , get them all
> walking?
>
> Seriously , I don't understand the logic behind this. Wtf is he
> trying to achieve? Its simply going to screw money out of tourists or
> visiting businessmen who don't know about Oyster or don't walk to fork
> out for one or go to the hassle of getting one just for a short trip. I
> suspect quite a few after sampling the pathetic service and sky high
> prices on tube might well not bother coming back. Well done Ken.
He's obviously not got through to you to get an Oyster card, has he? I'm
a visitor to London with an Oyster card.
--
Colin Rosenstiel.
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Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Dec 28, 2006 05:59
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> He's obviously not got through to you to get an Oyster card, has he? I'm
> a visitor to London with an Oyster card.
I've had an oyster card since they first came out funnily enough. And
well done to you for getting a card though since you're a regular on
this group I suspect you already knew about them. I doubt the same can
be said for 99%% of tourists who come here however. Do you read up on
the ticketing of the metro and bus systems in every foreign city you
visit before you go in case you get screwed by some megalomanic mayor
and his patsies by not coughing up a deposit beforehand to buy the
local smartcard?
B2003
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Author: eastendereastender Date: Dec 28, 2006 07:22
> I've had an oyster card since they first came out funnily enough. And
> well done to you for getting a card though since you're a regular on
> this group I suspect you already knew about them. I doubt the same can
> be said for 99%% of tourists who come here however. Do you read up on
> the ticketing of the metro and bus systems in every foreign city you
> visit before you go in case you get screwed by some megalomanic mayor
> and his patsies by not coughing up a deposit beforehand to buy the
> local smartcard?
What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems - why
wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to 'read up' on
them - you can just go to a ticket office or machine and buy one in most
cities I've been to.
E.
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Author: Colin RosenstielColin Rosenstiel Date: Dec 28, 2006 09:22
In article fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
eastend@nospam.com (eastender) wrote:
>> I've had an oyster card since they first came out funnily enough.
>> And well done to you for getting a card though since you're a regular
>> on this group I suspect you already knew about them. I doubt the
>> same can be said for 99%% of tourists who come here however. Do you
>> read up on the ticketing of the metro and bus systems in every
>> foreign city you visit before you go in case you get screwed by some
>> megalomanic mayor and his patsies by not coughing up a deposit
>> beforehand to buy the local smartcard?
>
> What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems -
> why wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to
> 'read up' on them - you can just go to a ticket office or machine
> and buy one in most cities I've been to.
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Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Dec 28, 2006 11:49
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> In article fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> eastend@nospam.com (eastender) wrote:>> What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems -
>> why wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to
Why would you? I don't know any other city metro that penalises people
for buying a normal ticket. If you know otherwise then please tell us
where.
>> 'read up' on them - you can just go to a ticket office or machine
>> and buy one in most cities I've been to.
How many cities have you been too? Can you speak every language in the
world? Try going to the eastern block and asking the babushka at the
ticket office about the fares in english and see what sort of response
you get.
>
> Precisely. Just regard cash fares as a tax on the ignorant, as in almost
> every city in the world.
Should be a tax you 2 should be paying then.
B2003
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: Dec 28, 2006 13:17
On 28 Dec 2006 11:49:49 -0800, "Boltar" yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
>> In article fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> eastend@nospam.com (eastender) wrote:>>> What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems -
>>> why wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to
>
>Why would you? I don't know any other city metro that penalises people
>for buying a normal ticket.
This system penalises people who buy abnormal tickets. Oyster is
normal.
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Author: Arthur FiggisArthur Figgis Date: Dec 28, 2006 13:25
Boltar wrote:
> Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
>> In article fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> eastend@nospam.com (eastender) wrote:>>> What nonsense. Many other world cities have travelcard systems -
>>> why wouldn't someone check out London's? And you don't need to
>
> Why would you? I don't know any other city metro that penalises people
> for buying a normal ticket. If you know otherwise then please tell us
> where.
I can't immediately think of where it was, but I've recently* been
somewhere where it costs more to buy a tram/bus/etc ticket from the
driver than from a kiosk in advance. Admittedly it isn't as dramatic a
difference as the card/cash prices in London, but fare differentials do
exist.
Conversely, in Manila they charge a 2%% processing fee for using the
smart card!
(*)so I'd guess Sofia, somewhere in Italy, Innsbruck or Berlin.
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