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Re: Documenting a Fraud WAS Re: Ben Franklin's Prophesy About Jews Has Come To Pass         

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Author: B'injamin Cr'amer
Date: Dec 22, 2007 20:46

"David Z" privacy.net> wrote in message
news:5t6323F1cb1onU1@mid.individual.net...
> Unfortunately, you obstinately use your literacy to:
>
> (a) tell lies,
Horseshit - That's a genetic yid thing.
> (b) spread lies, and
Horseshit - That's a genetic yid thing.
> (c) perpetuate lies
Horseshit - That's a genetic yid thing.

Fuck orf, jew cunt.
>
> That's all you do.
>
>
> "Dr. Lippschitz" room101.net> wrote in message
> news:5Cjbj.30498$eh4.27503@trnddc03...
>>
>> "B'injamin Cr'amer" wrote in message
>> news:X7Gdnc07QPagOvDanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "David Z" privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:5t5kl8F1bpl60U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Good work uncovering yet another one of Dr. Shit Lips' frauds. I've
>>>> uncovered a few in the past. Unfortunately, he just ignores the proof
>>>> and
>>>> continues to bullshit.
>>
>> Jews are not very literate, and with the exception of talmud reading,
>> know
>> very little of the literature of their host countries. Read Ben
>> Franklin's
>> autobiography, something you should have read by age 10 if you are an
>> American.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The bullshit, yid cunt, is the "outing" of this document as a fraud.
>>>
>>> You yid cunts do your "debunking" sans fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> He knows full well that he's propagating lies. As I've stated
>>>> repeatedly,
>>>> Avenger (aka, Dr. Shit Lips) is all about:
>>>>
>>>> (a) telling lies,
>>>> (b) spreading lies, and
>>>> (c) perpetuating lies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Darrin" aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>
> news:7c6bfd29-1b77-487f-a766-350f4257184d@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Back from his extended weekend pass at the insane asylum, "Dr.
>>>> Lippschitz" (aka Avenger, Voice of Reason, Professor Bugsbaum, Mr.
>>>> Nice Guy, The Boss, Hymie The Jew, Moishe The Jew, Dr. Lipschitz
>>>> (insert 5 variations of his pretend doctor pseudonym here)
>>>> fingerpainted the following anti-Semitic (aka jealous Gentile) lies:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 22, 3:25?am, "Dr. Lippschitz" surgeons.net> wrote:
>>>>> This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
> THE
>>>>> TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
>>>>> Convention
>>>> of
>>>>> 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
>>>>> Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
>>>>>
>>>>> "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
> young
>>>>> nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace,
>>>> gentlemen,
>>>>> is the Jews.
>>>>>
>>>>> In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have
>>>> lowered
>>>>> its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated
>>>>> themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried
>>>>> to
>>>>> undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded,
>>>>> by
>>>>> objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the
>>>>> state;
>>>>> and
>>>>> when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death
>>>>> financially,
>>>>> as
>>>> in
>>>>> the case of Spain and Portugal.
>>>>>
>>>>> For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in
>>>>> that
>>>>> they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine.
>>>>> But
>>>>> gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at
>>>>> once
>>>>> find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires,
> and
>>>>> vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>> They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
>>>> Constitution,
>>>>> in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great
> numbers
>>>>> that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of
>>>>> government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our
> lives
>>>> our
>>>>> substance and jeopardized our liberty.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
> will
>>>>> be
>>>>> working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do
>
>>>>> not
>>>>> exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your
> graves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
> how
>>>> many
>>>>> generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise.
> Their
>>>>> ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they
> live
>>>>> among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are
>>>>> Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and
> should
>>>> be
>>>>> excluded by this Constitutional Convention. "
>>>>> Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> The above is a well-known forgery that is propagated by anti-Semites
>>>> (aka jealous Gentiles) such as yourself. Read it and weep, ya creep:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/t9c5 (The Franklin Prophecy: Documenting a Fraud)
>>>>
>>>> The fraudulent nature of the Prophecy -- and the fact that anti-
>>>> Semitism was foreign to Franklin's behavior - has been substantially
>>>> documented by eminent historians. The late Charles A. Beard reported,
>>>> "I cannot find a single original source that gives the slightest
>>>> justification for believing that the Prophecy is anything more than a
>>>> barefaced forgery. Not a word have I discovered in Franklin's letters
>>>> and papers expressing any such sentiments against the Jews as are
>>>> ascribed to him by the Nazis - American and German. His well-known
>>>> liberality in matters of religious opinion would, in fact, have
>>>> precluded the kind of utterances put in his mouth by this palpable
>>>> forgery...In his writings on immigration, Franklin made no mention of
>>>> discrimination against Jews."
>>>>
>>>> Beard also noted that "the phraseology of the alleged Prophecy is not
>>>> that of the 18th century; nor is the language that of Franklin. It
>>>> contains certain words that belong to contemporary (Nazi) Germany
>>>> rather than America of Franklin's period. For example, the word
>>>> 'homeland' was not employed by Jews in Franklin's time. It was created
>>>> in connection with the Palestine mandate." Beard also showed "positive
>>>> evidence" that Franklin held Jews in high regard, citing the instance
>>>> when the Hebrew Society of Philadelphia sought to raise money for a
>>>> synagogue in Philadelphia. Franklin signed the petition of appeal for
>>>> contributions to "citizens of every religious denomination" and gave 5
>>>> pounds himself to the fund.
>>>>
>>>> J. Henry Smythe, Jr., compiler of The Amazing Benjamin Franklin, has
>>>> characterized the Prophecy as "a counterfeit," adding it was a "libel
>>>> of the Jewish race, unjust both to Jews and to the name and fame of
>>>> Benjamin Franklin. I have investigated this calumny and find no
>>>> historical basis."
>>>>
>>>> Julian P. Boyd, librarian of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania,
>>>> made the same evaluation, and John Clyde Oswald of the International
>>>> Benjamin Franklin Society noted that "the proceedings of the
>>>> Constitutional Convention of 1787 were secret. No official record was
>>>> kept but a great deal of information has been accumulated and pieced
>>>> together, giving a fairly
>>>> good picture of what transpired. Franklin was then 81 years of age and
>>>> in poor health. He took an active part in the proceedings but made his
>>>> contributions to the deliberations not orally, but in written
>>>> memoranda, which he handed to this friend, James Wilson, another
>>>> member of the Philadelphia delegation, who sat by him and who read
>>>> them to the Convention.
>>>>
>>>> They have been preserved and the collection is believed to be
>>>> complete.The late Carl Van Doren, a biographer of Benjamin Franklin
>>>> made this report:
>>>>
>>>> The speech against the Jews which Benjamin Franklin is alleged to have
>>>> made the Constitutional Convention of 1787 is a forgery, produced
>>>> within the past five years [1933-38]. The forger, whoever he was,
>>>> claims that the speech was taken down by Charles Pinckney of South
>>>> Carolina and preserved in his Journal. The forger presumably knew
>>>> that, in a letter to John Quincy Adams dated December 30, 1818,
>>>> Pinckney said he had kept a Journal of the proceedings at the
>>>> Convention. But this Journal, if it ever existed, has never been
>>>> found. The forger claims that Pinckney 'published' the Journal 'for
>>>> private distribution among his friends' with the title Chit-Chat
>>>> Around the Table During Intermissions. No copy of any such printed
>>>> Journal has come to light. Not content with these two claims, the
>>>> forger has further asserted that the original manuscript of Franklin's
>>>> speech, apparently from Pinckney's Journal, is in the Franklin
>>>> Institute, Philadelphia. The Franklin Institute does not possess the
>>>> manuscript.
>>>>
>>>> The forger's authority for his document is nearly as mythical as could
>>>> be imagined. He cites a manuscript which does not exist, a printed
>>>> book or pamphlet which nobody has seen, a Journal which has been lost
>>>> for more than a hundred years. There is no evidence of the slightest
>>>> value that Franklin ever made the alleged speech or ever said or
>>>> thought anything of the kind about the Jews.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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