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Author: Old Central
Date: Feb 27, 2008 23:43

OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I visit
DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often fail to
touch out.

Most valaidators face out so welcome travellers to the system but
don't help those existing the system.

Thoughts?

OC
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: MIG
Date: Feb 28, 2008 00:50

On Feb 28, 7:43 am, Old Central hotmail.com> wrote:
> OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I visit
> DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often fail to
> touch out.
>
> Most valaidators face out so welcome travellers to the system but
> don't help those existing the system.
>
> Thoughts?

The DLR validators are often very badly placed. Examples:

Deptford Bridge (southern end), where the validators are near the
bottom of the stairs, but facing away from both the stairs and the
main road, towards the river path, easily missed.

Heron Quays, where the validator is in the middle of the area below
the station, nowhere near the stairs, such that if you leave at the
end nearest the Jubilee, you don't go past it or see it unless you
turn round and search for it.
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: Offramp
Date: Feb 28, 2008 01:55

On Feb 28, 7:43 am, Old Central hotmail.com> wrote:
> OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I visit
> DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often fail to
> touch out.
>
> Most valaidators face out so welcome travellers to the system but
> don't help those existing the system.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> OC

Do they still have those misleading - totally incorrect in fact -
signs on the validators that only pay-as-you-go customers need to
swipe in? (It should be that all Oyster customers need to swipe in).
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: Richard J.
Date: Feb 28, 2008 02:05

Offramp wrote:
> On Feb 28, 7:43 am, Old Central hotmail.com> wrote:
>> OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I
>> visit DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often
>> fail to touch out.
>>
>> Most valaidators face out so welcome travellers to the system but
>> don't help those existing the system.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> OC
>
> Do they still have those misleading - totally incorrect in fact -
> signs on the validators that only pay-as-you-go customers need to
> swipe in? (It should be that all Oyster customers need to swipe in).

According to the "Common Questions" on the DLR part of TfL's website "If
you are using pay as you go, you must touch your Oyster card on the
reader every time you enter and exit the station."
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: John B
Date: Feb 28, 2008 02:09

On 28 Feb, 09:55, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:
[DLR]
> Do they still have those misleading - totally incorrect in fact -
> signs on the validators that only pay-as-you-go customers need to
> swipe in? (It should be that all Oyster customers need to swipe in).

Eh? Only PAYG customers do need to swipe in - if you have a Travelcard
that covers you for the zones you're intending to travel in, you don't
need to swipe in, whether you're on NR, LU, DLR or a bendy bus.

You might disapprove of this policy out of some misguided anti-season-
ticket-holder-animosity, but it's The Case [why the flaming hell would
it not be? They have paid a great deal of money for a valid ticket
that covers their journey...]

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: MIG
Date: Feb 28, 2008 02:43

On 28 Feb, 10:09, John B johnband.org> wrote:
> On 28 Feb, 09:55, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:
> [DLR]
>
>> Do they still have those misleading - totally incorrect in fact -
>> signs on the validators that only pay-as-you-go customers need to
>> swipe in? (It should be that all Oyster customers need to swipe in).
>
> Eh? Only PAYG customers do need to swipe in - if you have a Travelcard
> that covers you for the zones you're intending to travel in, you don't
> need to swipe in, whether you're on NR, LU, DLR or a bendy bus.
>
> You might disapprove of this policy out of some misguided anti-season-
> ticket-holder-animosity, but it's The Case [why the flaming hell would
> it not be? They have paid a great deal of money for a valid ticket
> that covers their journey...]
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: John B
Date: Feb 28, 2008 03:20

On 28 Feb, 10:43, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>> Eh? Only PAYG customers do need to swipe in - if you have a Travelcard
>> that covers you for the zones you're intending to travel in, you don't
>> need to swipe in, whether you're on NR, LU, DLR or a bendy bus.
>
>> You might disapprove of this policy out of some misguided anti-season-
>> ticket-holder-animosity, but it's The Case [why the flaming hell would
>> it not be? They have paid a great deal of money for a valid ticket
>> that covers their journey...]
>
> That's not quite true. If you have a zone 1 - 2 travelcard on Oyster
> and continue to West Ruislip via Bank using PAYG for the excess, you
> do need to touch in somewhere. True, you can do it at Bank, but might
> as well be at your starting station to avoid forgetting...
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: MIG
Date: Feb 28, 2008 04:14

On 28 Feb, 11:20, John B johnband.org> wrote:
> On 28 Feb, 10:43, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Eh? Only PAYG customers do need to swipe in - if you have a Travelcard
>>> that covers you for the zones you're intending to travel in, you don't
>>> need to swipe in, whether you're on NR, LU, DLR or a bendy bus.
>
>>> You might disapprove of this policy out of some misguided anti-season-
>>> ticket-holder-animosity, but it's The Case [why the flaming hell would
>>> it not be? They have paid a great deal of money for a valid ticket
>>> that covers their journey...]
>
>> That's not quite true.  If you have a zone 1 - 2 travelcard on Oyster
>> and continue to West Ruislip via Bank using PAYG for the excess, you
>> do need to touch in somewhere.  True, you can...
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: Sam
Date: Feb 28, 2008 06:18

On 28 Feb, 07:43, Old Central hotmail.com> wrote:
> OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I visit
> DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often fail to
> touch out.

As an occasional visitor to London, with Oyster PAYG, I'm never sure
what to do on Tube<->DLR transfers. At Bank, there are lots of signs
saying "always touch", so I always do.

But I did Central->DLR at Stratford the other week. Mindful of Bank, I
touched as I went past the validator on the platform. On the DLR
train, there was an inspector who told me I shouldn't have used that
validator - I should have just walked straight from Tube to DLR.

And then at Cutty Sark, I found myself going up and up and wondering
where the validator would be to touch out, worrying that I had already
missed it.

Not ideal. (But overall I have to say Oyster PAYG is still great as an
infrequent visitor; I much prefer it to paper ticketing with
travelcards.)

Sam
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Re: DLR Oyster validator         


Author: MIG
Date: Feb 28, 2008 07:05

On 28 Feb, 14:18, Sam samholloway.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28 Feb, 07:43, Old Central hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK I am a regular Underground and Tramlink user but whenever I visit
>> DLR, (WIQ, West India Quay, and GAR, Gallions Reach) I often fail to
>> touch out.
>
> As an occasional visitor to London, with Oyster PAYG, I'm never sure
> what to do on Tube<->DLR transfers. At Bank, there are lots of signs
> saying "always touch", so I always do.
>
> But I did Central->DLR at Stratford the other week. Mindful of Bank, I
> touched as I went past the validator on the platform. On the DLR
> train, there was an inspector who told me I shouldn't have used that
> validator - I should have just walked straight from Tube to DLR.

I've done the anecdote about when I was going from Euston to Cannon
Street (down the road from Bank) and forgot to touch in (used to
having a travelcard and the gate was open).
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