I haven't been to London for a few years. But I've heard a lot on
this newsgroup about the elimination of Routemasters except for a few
"heritage" services, and the widespread introduction of articulated
single-deck buses. What I haven't heard about is the status of the
*other* double-deckers, the ones operated only by a driver. Are these
still in use on some routes or have they been totally replaced without
my hearing about it? If they are still in use, are they expected to
be totally replaced? And what about the smaller single-deck buses
that I used to see on some of the quieter routes? And are there other
important subcategories these days that I didn't think to ask about?

Are there statistics somewhere about how many buses are in use of each
of these types, or how many routes they operate on? I'm just looking
for a general idea here, and I don't particularly want to know about
specific models of bus unless they differ in important ways.

In article vex.net>, msb@vex.net (Mark
Brader) wrote:

On Sun, 18 May 2008, Mark Brader wrote:

'Widespread' is perhaps too strong. Twelve routes (i think) use bendies.
They are some of the busiest and most important, though, so you see them
quite often if you're somewhere that's anywhere.

They're still around, and account, i'd say, for the vast majority of
buses.

No. Bendification was only ever planned for the busiest routes, as it's
fairly expensive and requires good, wide roads. Double-deckers were always
slated to carry on serving the majority of routes. Now that there's a
moratorium on further bendification, and a possible rolling-back of
bendies under the Boris, that's guaranteed.

On 18 May, 21:37, Tom Anderson wrote:

Try the London Free Bus Map:
http://www.philippekindelis.net/freetransport.htm

U

On Sun, 18 May 2008 15:11:18 -0500, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

On 2008-05-18, Mark Brader vex.net> wrote:

On Sun, 18 May 2008 21:37:15 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

Like some of the ones they use in Central London!

On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:58:54 +0100, Paul Corfield
dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

Is that actually true, or does he just want to stop using them on TfL
services?

Paul Corfield wrote:

Sometimes too full - how often are Sunday services reviewed and potentially
expanded?

One particular problem I've seen is the over reliance on existing bus routes
to double as rail replacement services. The Central Line betwen Mile End and
Stratford is the most obvious case in my normal routine and often I've found
the 25 ridiculously crowded (even by its standards) and insufficiently
frequent when there's no tube between those points.

On 19 May, 00:17, James Farrar gmail.com> wrote:

Not even that. The most reason news is there'll be a design
competition to see if anything better is possible, but if not, they'll
stay. They seem to be slowly backing away from the policy, especially
the "new Routemaster" part.

U