Distance Based Zone Boundaries
  Home FAQ Contact Sign in
uk.transport.london only
 
Advanced search
POPULAR GROUPS

more...

uk.transport.london Profile…
 Up
Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: Peter Smyth
Date: Jan 2, 2008 11:13

(apologies for the earlier incomplete post)

Following the recent discussions on redrawing the zone boundaries I thought
it would be interestint to work out what the boundaries would look like on a
pure distance based system. All stations were placed into zones according to
their distance from Charing Cross. The number of stations was kept constant
so for each station that moves in, one has to move out.

In general it seems that boundaries are too close together in North and
South London and too far apart in East and West London.

STATIONS MOVING IN
Zone 2 to Zone 1
Battersea Park, Camden Road, Camden Town, Kennington, Mornington Crescent,
Oval, Queenstown Road (Battersea)
Zone 3 to Zone 2
Balham, Cricklewood, Crouch Hill, Hampstead...
Show full article (2.81Kb)
6 Comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: craig.richmond
Date: Jan 2, 2008 11:26

"Peter Smyth" THISukf.net> wrote in message
news:flgnoa$ndt$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> (apologies for the earlier incomplete post)
>
> Following the recent discussions on redrawing the zone boundaries I
> thought it would be interestint to work out what the boundaries would look
> like on a pure distance based system. All stations were placed into zones
> according to their distance from Charing Cross. The number of stations was
> kept constant so for each station that moves in, one has to move out.
>
> In general it seems that boundaries are too close together in North and
> South London and too far apart in East and West London.
>
> STATIONS MOVING IN
> Zone 2 to Zone 1
> Battersea Park, Camden Road, Camden Town, Kennington, Mornington Crescent,
> Oval, Queenstown Road (Battersea)
> Zone 3 to Zone 2
> Balham, Cricklewood, Crouch Hill, Hampstead Heath, Harringay, Harringay
> Green Lanes, Highgate, Stamford Hill, Streatham Hill, Tooting Bec, Tulse ...
Show full article (3.16Kb)
no comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: Dave A
Date: Jan 2, 2008 11:28

Peter Smyth wrote:
> (apologies for the earlier incomplete post)
>
> Following the recent discussions on redrawing the zone boundaries I thought
> it would be interestint to work out what the boundaries would look like on a
> pure distance based system. All stations were placed into zones according to
> their distance from Charing Cross. The number of stations was kept constant
> so for each station that moves in, one has to move out.
>
> In general it seems that boundaries are too close together in North and
> South London and too far apart in East and West London.

(snip list)

Good stuff but I'm not sure measuring distance from Charing Cross is
fair... one of the main points of the zone system as-is is that central
London is busy and therefore Zone 1 journeys carry a "premium" cost.

Additionally, London is elongated along an east-west axis, with central
London being wider in that direction than it is along the north-south
axis (as is Greater London).
Show full article (1.23Kb)
no comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: craig.richmond
Date: Jan 2, 2008 11:30

"Dave A" privacy.net> wrote in message
news:5u26v3F1fnaciU1@mid.individual.net...
> Peter Smyth wrote:
>> (apologies for the earlier incomplete post)
>>
>> Following the recent discussions on redrawing the zone boundaries I
>> thought it would be interestint to work out what the boundaries would
>> look like on a pure distance based system. All stations were placed into
>> zones according to their distance from Charing Cross. The number of
>> stations was kept constant so for each station that moves in, one has to
>> move out.
>>
>> In general it seems that boundaries are too close together in North and
>> South London and too far apart in East and West London.
>
> (snip list)
>
> Good stuff but I'm not sure measuring distance from Charing Cross is
> fair... one of the main points of the zone system as-is is that central
> London is busy and therefore Zone 1 journeys carry a "premium" cost. ...
Show full article (1.43Kb)
no comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: Tim Roll-Pickering
Date: Jan 2, 2008 11:34

Peter Smyth wrote:
> Zone 6 to Zone 4
> Kingston

The single largest move in your scheme - and it's one of the key stations in
the constituency mentioned in the original article about this.
2 Comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: Colin Rosenstiel
Date: Jan 2, 2008 13:47

In article <5u279vF1fuh34U1@mid.individual.net>,
T.C.Roll-Pickering@qmul.ac.uk (Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:
> Peter Smyth wrote:
>
>> Zone 6 to Zone 4
>> Kingston
>
> The single largest move in your scheme - and it's one of the key
> stations in the constituency mentioned in the original article
> about this.

You can see why local MP Ed Davey is making such a fuss about it!

--
Colin Rosenstiel
no comments
Re: Distance Based Zone Boundaries         


Author: Tim Roll-Pickering
Date: Jan 2, 2008 14:21

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
>>> Zone 6 to Zone 4
>>> Kingston
>> The single largest move in your scheme - and it's one of the key
>> stations in the constituency mentioned in the original article
>> about this.
> You can see why local MP Ed Davey is making such a fuss about it!

Yes there must be a few votes in it.
no comments