|
|
 Up |
|
|
  |
Author: OfframpOfframp Date: Oct 2, 2007 11:22
So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
|
| |
|
| | 87 Comments |
|
|
Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: Oct 2, 2007 13:59
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Offramp wrote:
> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
Shunt! Shunt! Kriss Krossrail'll make you shunt! Shunt!
Ahem. Story here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7024935.stm
No mention of land value capture per se; i'm not sure quite how this "levy
on London business rates" will work.
"If the project gets the final go-ahead, construction would begin in 2010
with trains up and running by 2015."
A likely story. Construction will start two years before the Olympics?
Well, there is the point that the Olympics won't need TBMs, but i'm not
convinced.
John Kay (who he? -ed.) doesn't like it, no sir:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/49e9a016-70f9-11dc-98fc-0000779fd2ac.html
He dislikes it for stupid reasons, though, and says stupid things ("old
postal tunnel" is probably the funniest, if not the most stupid).
tom
|
| Show full article (1.05Kb) |
|
| | no comments |
|
|
Author: OfframpOfframp Date: Oct 3, 2007 00:19
On Oct 2, 9:59 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Offramp wrote:
> Shunt! Shunt! Kriss Krossrail'll make you shunt! Shunt!
Construction will start two years before the Olympics?
> Well, there is the point that the Olympics won't need TBMs, but i'm not
> convinced.
>
> John Kay (who he? -ed.) doesn't like it, no sir:
I can foresee that in 2011 (like the JLE in 1998/9) the papers will
start to say, 'Why isn't this thing ready? It's meant to be ready for
the 2012 Olympics!?'
Then the Gov will throw squillions of pounds at it and it'll open in
May 2012.
|
| |
| 2 Comments |
|
|
Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Oct 3, 2007 01:30
> On Oct 2, 9:59 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Offramp wrote:
>
>> Shunt! Shunt! Kriss Krossrail'll make you shunt! Shunt!
>
> Construction will start two years before the Olympics?
>> Well, there is the point that the Olympics won't need TBMs, but i'm not
>> convinced.
>>
>> John Kay (who he? -ed.) doesn't like it, no sir:
>
> I can foresee that in 2011 (like the JLE in 1998/9) the papers will
> start to say, 'Why isn't this thing ready? It's meant to be ready for
> the 2012 Olympics!?'
> Then the Gov will throw squillions of pounds at it and it'll open in
> May 2012.
|
| Show full article (1.01Kb) |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Oct 3, 2007 01:52
On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels to
UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running dedicated
double deck trains through them alongside normal UK trains , or will
they build it to the hopeless 19th century UK loading gauge and then
complaints about undercapcity start to surface a few years after
opening?
B2003
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: tim.....tim..... Date: Oct 3, 2007 02:32
> On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:>> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
>
> Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels to
> UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running dedicated
> double deck trains through them alongside normal UK trains , or will
> they build it to the hopeless 19th century UK loading gauge and then
> complaints about undercapcity start to surface a few years after
> opening?
Double deck trains don't work on frequently stopping lines
with overlapping journeys like crossrail is expected to be.
The Germans tried them in Munich as a solution to their
capacity problem and promptly took them off again as they
added no extra capacity.
tim
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: sweeksweek Date: Oct 3, 2007 02:37
On 3 Oct, 10:32, "tim....." yahoo.co.uk> wrote:>> On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:>>> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
>
>> Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels to
>> UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running dedicated
>> double deck trains through them alongside normal UK trains , or will
>> they build it to the hopeless 19th century UK loading gauge and then
>> complaints about undercapcity start to surface a few years after
>> opening?
>
> Double deck trains don't work on frequently stopping lines
> with overlapping journeys like crossrail is expected to be.
>
> The Germans tried them in Munich as a solution to their
> capacity problem and promptly took them off again as they ...
|
| Show full article (1.12Kb) |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Oct 3, 2007 04:16
On Oct 3, 10:37 am, sweek gmail.com> wrote:> On 3 Oct, 10:32, "tim....." yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>> "Boltar" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message>
>
>>> On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:>>>> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
>
>>> Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels to
>>> UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running dedicated
>>> double deck trains through them alongside normal UK trains , or will
>>> they build it to the hopeless 19th century UK loading gauge and then
>>> complaints about undercapcity start to surface a few years after
>>> opening? ...
|
| Show full article (1.38Kb) |
| no comments |
|
|
Author: tim.....tim..... Date: Oct 3, 2007 04:24
> On Oct 3, 10:37 am, sweek gmail.com> wrote:>> On 3 Oct, 10:32, "tim....." yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> "Boltar" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message>>
>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp gmail.com> wrote:>>>>> So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!
>>
>>>> Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels
>>>> to
>>>> UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running dedicated
>>>> double deck trains through them alongside normal UK trains , or will ...
|
| Show full article (1.76Kb) |
| no comments |
|
|
|
|
|
Author: John BJohn B Date: Oct 3, 2007 06:14
On 3 Oct, 12:24, "tim....." yahoo.co.uk> wrote:>> They seem to work quite nicely on the RER in paris.
>
> which only proves that they work in Paris
>
no, it only proves that they seem to work in Paris ;-P
|
| |
| no comments |
|
|
|
|
