Morning all,

The discussion of the Northern line got me looking at the Cross-River
Transit proposals again. If this works, i think it'd be excellent, but i
have to admit i'm skeptical about the practicality of an on-street system
along some of London's busiest roads.

But, looking at this map:

http://www.crossriverpartnership.org/downloaddoc.asp?skin=1&page=1236&id=586

I wonder:

Have they got a convincing explanation of how they're going to do this
without getting fouled up in traffic?

Why does the King's Cross branch go the wrong way?

Why does the Brixton branch go via Lambeth North rather than Elephant?

Oh, and what is this 'London University' next to Euston, and isn't Albert
Square on the District line, not down south? :)

tom

Tom Anderson wrote:

Ack! I've already had to pull one person up this week who should have known
better - they're a graduate of the University of Durham, not Durham
University!

The King's Cross branch arrives from the North in order not to foul up
the Euston Road. IIRC the plans say that the crossing at Euston will
be the only place where trams won't have absolute priority over
traffic, because it would cause mayhem.

As for the Brixton branch, perhaps it will fit in better with the
remodelling of the elephant if this branch doesn't go that way. Or
perhaps it's just because via Lambeth North is the natural route that
the buses to Brixton take at the moment.

brixtonite wrote:

Basically, near-absolute priority along the whole route. I don't think
that any section will be shared-use with general traffic at all (much of
it uses existing bus priority routes). AIUI, the only junctions where
the tram will not have priority are Holborn (heavy east-west bus
traffic) and Euston (heavy east-west car traffic). AIUI there are (or at
least were) plans to turn Camden High Street into a public transport
"boulevard", with two-way operation for buses, trams, cycles, possibly
taxis and access only for private vehicles (other private traffic would
be routed via the parallel Camden Street).

In article <4pucgsFkkdigU1@individual.net>, me9@privacy.net (Dave
Arquati) wrote:

Because Judd St only gets them to St Pancras and not to the Cross?

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

Perhaps, but the alternative via Mornington Crescent will take so much
longer that someone taking a tram to Midland Road and walking over to
the Cross would easily beat someone sitting on a tram via St Pancras
Hospital. ...

Tom Anderson wrote:

Push all the traffic off the A4200?

You mean why does it follow Crowndale Road and Pancras Road? Because
there's a road there?

Tom Anderson wrote:

That'll be the, um, University of London
http://www.london.ac.uk/contact.html ...

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Earl Purple wrote:

Yes, i imagine so. Where will it go?

Ah, of course. And there was me thinking that Bernard Street, Judd Street,
Midland Road and Euston Road were roads too. How foolish of me!

And why does it follow the A23?

Don't say it's because it goes via Lambeth North rather than Elephant!

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Dave Newt wrote:

What, all the way from Montague Place to Gower Place? I should think the
denizens of Birkbeck, SOAS, RADA and UCL would have something to say about
that ...

tom