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Author: Great EasternGreat Eastern Date: Feb 19, 2008 05:43
On my train I often get someone who commutes (first off peak of the day)
to London and uses a weird ticket combination.
Passenger asks for a Single ticket from origin (a One Rail station in
North Essex) to Harold Wood with a Senior Card - no problems there.
Then passenger has a freedom pass to cover the section from HRO to
Liverpool Street, the train used to get to London doesn't stop at Harold
Wood as its a One mainline service - but I assume this is ok, as the
Freedom Pass is effectively a travelcard.
Then on the return uses a Saver from London, which is apparently "bought
in advance" Its obvious whats happening, she's using the same saver
until it either gets marked or expires, but anyway......
But the out journey - I assume this is abuse of this particular ticket?
Don't FP holders need to be London residents?
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Feb 19, 2008 05:59
And in other possible scams, the chap sat opposite me yesterday on a
Derby-Nottingham train bought a single to Long Eaton from the train
manager. And stayed on the train all the way to Nottingham.
Of course, he might have already had a Long Eaton to Nottingham single
in his pocket, but how likely is that? If he was stopped at Nottingham
he could easily have said he'd come from Beeston.
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Roland Perry
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Feb 19, 2008 06:18
Great Eastern wrote:
> On my train I often get someone who commutes (first off peak of the day)
> to London and uses a weird ticket combination.
>
> Passenger asks for a Single ticket from origin (a One Rail station in
> North Essex) to Harold Wood with a Senior Card - no problems there.
>
> Then passenger has a freedom pass to cover the section from HRO to
> Liverpool Street, the train used to get to London doesn't stop at Harold
> Wood as its a One mainline service - but I assume this is ok, as the
> Freedom Pass is effectively a travelcard.
>
However it would certainly be good to have confirmation from one of
our ticketing gurus as to whether the above is a legit combination.
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Author: Michael HoffmanMichael Hoffman Date: Feb 19, 2008 07:03
Roland Perry wrote:
> And in other possible scams, the chap sat opposite me yesterday on a
> Derby-Nottingham train bought a single to Long Eaton from the train
> manager. And stayed on the train all the way to Nottingham.
Gutsy on a staffed train.
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Michael Hoffman
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Feb 19, 2008 07:12
In message gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, at 15:03:23 on Tue, 19
Feb 2008, Michael Hoffman <cam.ac.uk@mh391.invalid> remarked:>> And in other possible scams, the chap sat opposite me yesterday on a
>>Derby-Nottingham train bought a single to Long Eaton from the train
>>manager. And stayed on the train all the way to Nottingham.
>
>Gutsy on a staffed train.
It's most unlikely the TM would sweep the train twice. My observations
are that they do it once each on the Nottingham/Derby and
Derby/Birmingham legs.
--
Roland Perry
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Author: markmark Date: Feb 19, 2008 08:33
On Feb 19, 3:12 pm, Roland Perry perry.co.uk> wrote:> In message gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, at 15:03:23 on Tue, 19
> Feb 2008, Michael Hoffman <cam.ac...@mh391.invalid> remarked:
>>>> And in other possible scams, the chap sat opposite me yesterday on a
>>>Derby-Nottingham train bought a single to Long Eaton from the train
>>>manager. And stayed on the train all the way to Nottingham.
>
>>Gutsy on a staffed train.
>
> It's most unlikely the TM would sweep the train twice. My observations
> are that they do it once each on the Nottingham/Derby and
> Derby/Birmingham legs.
>
> --
> Roland Perry
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Author: Graham HarrisonGraham Harrison Date: Feb 19, 2008 10:27
>
>
> Great Eastern wrote:
>
>> On my train I often get someone who commutes (first off peak of the day)
>> to London and uses a weird ticket combination.
>>
>> Passenger asks for a Single ticket from origin (a One Rail station in
>> North Essex) to Harold Wood with a Senior Card - no problems there.
>>
>> Then passenger has a freedom pass to cover the section from HRO to
>> Liverpool Street, the train used to get to London doesn't stop at Harold
>> Wood as its a One mainline service - but I assume this is ok, as the
>> Freedom Pass is effectively a travelcard.
>>
>
> However it would certainly be good to have confirmation from one of
> our ticketing gurus as to whether the above is a legit combination. ...
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Author: Graham HarrisonGraham Harrison Date: Feb 19, 2008 10:31
"Roland Perry" perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:RvYlcCYjHvuHFA2m@perry.co.uk...> In message gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, at 15:03:23 on Tue, 19 Feb
> 2008, Michael Hoffman <cam.ac.uk@mh391.invalid> remarked:>>> And in other possible scams, the chap sat opposite me yesterday on a
>>> Derby-Nottingham train bought a single to Long Eaton from the train
>>> manager. And stayed on the train all the way to Nottingham.
>>
>>Gutsy on a staffed train.
>
> It's most unlikely the TM would sweep the train twice. My observations are
> that they do it once each on the Nottingham/Derby and Derby/Birmingham
> legs.
>
> --
> Roland Perry
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Author: Michael R N DolbearMichael R N Dolbear Date: Feb 19, 2008 11:17
Mizter T gmail.com> wrote
[...]> Alternatively she has just moved out of London but is continuing to
> use her Freedom Pass until it expires (which they do every year I
> think, and thus need to be renewed) - which I'm sure is against the
> rules, but it'd be no great surprise to hear that it happens.
>
> However the more sinister interpretations are that she is either
using
> someone else's Freedom Pass (note that they don't carry a photo at
> present), or that she has somehow used an address in London so as to
> apply for one herself.
>
> Combining the whole picture together, it does look pretty suspect.
But it is possible to be resident in more than one place, hence
students (and the Duke of Devonshire) on more than one electoral roll.
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Feb 19, 2008 11:36
On 19 Feb, 19:17, "Michael R N Dolbear" privacy.net> wrote:> Mizter T gmail.com> wrote
> [...]
>>> Alternatively she has just moved out of London but is continuing to
>> use her Freedom Pass until it expires (which they do every year I
>> think, and thus need to be renewed) - which I'm sure is against the
>> rules, but it'd be no great surprise to hear that it happens.
>
>> However the more sinister interpretations are that she is either
>> using
>> using someone else's Freedom Pass (note that they don't carry a
>> photo at present), or that she has somehow used an address in
>> London so as to apply for one herself.
>
>> Combining the whole picture together, it does look pretty suspect.
>
> But it is possible to be resident in more than one place, hence
> students (and the Duke of Devonshire) on more than one electoral roll.
> ...
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