> On Sunday morning, about 08.00,I was on a 21 to Lewisham at London
> Bridge/Monument. A passenger boarded and tried to pay with a twenty
> pound note. The driver had no change and nor did other passengers. The
> passenger was made to get off the bus. I was horrified and complained,
> this morning, at 0845 300 7000. The stop is not "Pay before you board".
> It seems the operator should have issued a pay later chit.
> I have never seen this happen before; it would not have affected me as I
> use an auto-topped Oyster.

>Walter Briscoe wrote:

>> On Sunday morning, about 08.00,I was on a 21 to Lewisham at London
>> Bridge/Monument. A passenger boarded and tried to pay with a twenty
>> pound note. The driver had no change and nor did other passengers. The
>> passenger was made to get off the bus. I was horrified and complained,
>> this morning, at 0845 300 7000. The stop is not "Pay before you board".
>> It seems the operator should have issued a pay later chit.
>> I have never seen this happen before; it would not have affected me as I
>> use an auto-topped Oyster.

>
>My father was an LT driver back in the 70s and 80s and they were told
>that they were under no obligation to give change at all although they
>should always try to do so.

>On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:21:10 +0100, Roy Stilling
>kalevala.org.uk> wrote:
>

>>Walter Briscoe wrote:

>>> On Sunday morning, about 08.00,I was on a 21 to Lewisham at London
>>> Bridge/Monument. A passenger boarded and tried to pay with a twenty
>>> pound note. The driver had no change and nor did other passengers. The
>>> passenger was made to get off the bus. I was horrified and complained,
>>> this morning, at 0845 300 7000. The stop is not "Pay before you board".
>>> It seems the operator should have issued a pay later chit.
>>> I have never seen this happen before; it would not have affected me as I
>>> use an auto-topped Oyster.

>>
>>My father was an LT driver back in the 70s and 80s and they were told
>>that they were under no obligation to give change at all although they
>>should always try to do so.

> ...

> On Sunday morning, about 08.00,I was on a 21 to Lewisham at London
> Bridge/Monument. A passenger boarded and tried to pay with a twenty
> pound note. The driver had no change and nor did other passengers. The
> passenger was made to get off the bus. I was horrified and complained,
> this morning, at 0845 300 7000. The stop is not "Pay before you board".
> It seems the operator should have issued a pay later chit.

>If they did that it would be a scam that would be soon abused. Perhaps
>the passenger should have had some common sense and changed the note
>in a shop beforehand anyway.

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:24:51 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>

>> On Sep 15, 10:18 am, Walter Briscoe nospam.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:

>>> On Sunday morning, about 08.00...

> The problem is that
> cash comes in doses of 10 or 20 pounds, as notes. You cannot get
> money from a cash machine in any smaller quantity.

> Shopkeepers are the bus companies bankers? They are paid by the bus
> company for this service? The shop is open even if it exists?
> Perhaps the bus company should give the drivers a reasonable float,
> after all they do trust them with cash.

> This is, to my mind, a major hole in the payment arrangements for the
> buses, and i believe i've ranted about this before. The problem is that
> cash comes in doses of 10 or 20 pounds, as notes. You cannot get money
> from a cash machine in any smaller quantity. Bus drivers may refuse these,
> and you certainly can't use them in the little ticket machines at stops.
> Thus, if you're not near an open shop, whether because you're somewhere
> remote or it's late, you're a bit stuffed.