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Author: Thunderbug
Date: May 31, 2008 18:26

hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> When?
>
> I know that it is on the Circle Line, but is there a specific time that it
> kicks off?
>

Well it certainly kicked off at Kings Cross - waiting on the westbound
Met (&Cirlce etc) platform at about 22.40 there was a Circle line with
plenty of drunken idiots onboard.

In what they'd probably call a party atmosphere but what a single woman
would call a very uncomfortable one, the 'revellers' as the BBC calls
them used sticks to hit the CCTV cameras to point away from the crowds,
but I am tall enough to reach the cameras – so I moved one back.

They managed to break enough off the train that it first got taken out
of service, but when the staff were too disorganised to shove people
off, they evacuated the station. I hope I'm never at Kings Cross when
it actually needs to be evacuated in a genuine emergency because that
was hardly executed well either: closing shutters at street level
doesn't help people leave the station!
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Re: Booze Cruise         


Author: Neil Williams
Date: Jun 1, 2008 02:38

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:26:09 +0100, Thunderbug
gmail.com> wrote:
>If it was supposed to be a protest to claim that drinking didn
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Re: Booze Cruise         


Author: Roland Perry
Date: Jun 1, 2008 03:17

In message <48426dba.311341881@news.individual.net>, at 09:38:16 on Sun,
1 Jun 2008, Neil Williams pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>I'm surprised the various authorities didn't find some way to prevent
>it happening, such as registering a one-off alcohol ban for 31/5 but
>not (as the railway does) publicising it until the last minute.
>
>Actually, it did surprise me that the rule was not introduced with
>immediate effect, anyway...

Bringing it in after a Saturday night seems a bit odd. Other rules that
co-incide with the start of months at weekends often wait until Monday
to take effect.
--
Roland Perry
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Re: Booze Cruise         


Author: tims next home
Date: Jun 1, 2008 04:01

"Roland Perry" perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xoF9PS5ccnQIFAer@perry.co.uk...
> In message <48426dba.311341881@news.individual.net>, at 09:38:16 on Sun, 1
> Jun 2008, Neil Williams pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>I'm surprised the various authorities didn't find some way to prevent
>>it happening, such as registering a one-off alcohol ban for 31/5 but
>>not (as the railway does) publicising it until the last minute.
>>
>>Actually, it did surprise me that the rule was not introduced with
>>immediate effect, anyway...
>
> Bringing it in after a Saturday night seems a bit odd. Other rules that
> co-incide with the start of months at weekends often wait until Monday to
> take effect.

I am sure that the office of the mayor never thought that anything like this
would happen.

After all, there wasn't a history of parties on the tube so I doubt that
anyone thought that someone would arrange one on the last day.

tim
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Author: hounslow3
Date: Jun 1, 2008 04:33

"tims next home" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I am sure that the office of the mayor never thought that anything like
> this would happen.

I'd be surprised if they hadn't thought that sometrhing like this could
happen.
> After all, there wasn't a history of parties on the tube so I doubt that
> anyone thought that someone would arrange one on the last day.
>
I think that there have indeed been parties on the tube, albeit nothing like
this.

But I believe that things like what happened on Saturday night have happened
on other undergrounds in Europe. Didn't something happen in Berlin or Moscow
a few years ago, forcing the authorities to basically shut down an entire
line
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Author: Tom Barry
Date: Jun 1, 2008 04:41

tims next home wrote:
>
> I am sure that the office of the mayor never thought that anything like
> this would happen.
>
> After all, there wasn't a history of parties on the tube so I doubt that
> anyone thought that someone would arrange one on the last day.
>
> tim
>
Considering the Mayor is an intelligent man with some idea of the
English character, I'd have thought it was entirely predictable, and a
Saturday night after a London team was in (and as it turned out winning)
the Rugby Premiership final wasn't the best timing ever. It was
effectively the equivalent of a teenager issuing an open invitation on
Facebook when her parents are on holiday and finding the house trashed.
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Author: Brian Watson
Date: Jun 1, 2008 05:16

"Tom Barry" blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AWv0k.48298$Zs3.6685@newsfe20.ams2...
> tims next home wrote:
>>
>> I am sure that the office of the mayor never thought that anything like
>> this would happen.
>>
>> After all, there wasn't a history of parties on the tube

You might like to take a look on YouTube before you repeat that assertion.
>> so I doubt that anyone thought that someone would arrange one on the last
>> day.

It was well publicised in plenty of time for suitable action (good
people-management skills deployed around the Circle Line and a few
suitably-placed police vans for the excessive revelers) to be taken.
> Considering the Mayor is an intelligent man with some idea of the English
> character,

Y'see, that's where you're going wrong; with that assumption at the outset.

I look forward to Doris' "wise" words on the subject once he gets back to
the office.
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Author: Mr Thant
Date: Jun 1, 2008 05:47

On 1 Jun, 11:17, Roland Perry perry.co.uk> wrote:
> Bringing it in after a Saturday night seems a bit odd. Other rules that
> co-incide with the start of months at weekends often wait until Monday
> to take effect.

They all but encouraged the party with the way it was implemented.
It's either incompetence for not foreseeing it, or massively cynical.

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London
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Re: Booze Cruise         


Author: MIG
Date: Jun 1, 2008 06:11

On Jun 1, 12:01 pm, "tims next home" yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Roland Perry" perry.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:xoF9PS5ccnQIFAer@perry.co.uk...
>
>> In message <48426dba.311341...@news.individual.net>, at 09:38:16 on Sun, 1
>> Jun 2008, Neil Williams pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>>I'm surprised the various authorities didn't find some way to prevent
>>>it happening, such as registering a one-off alcohol ban for 31/5 but
>>>not (as the railway does) publicising it until the last minute.
>
>>>Actually, it did surprise me that the rule was not introduced with
>>>immediate effect, anyway...
>
>> Bringing it in after a Saturday night seems a bit odd. Other rules that
>> co-incide with the start of months at weekends often wait until Monday to
>> take effect.
>
> I am sure that the office of the mayor never thought that anything like this ...
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Re: Booze Cruise         


Author: Neil Williams
Date: Jun 1, 2008 07:06

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:11:05 -0700 (PDT), MIG
doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>*Drunkenness may be, but sipping it while on public transport is not
>the issue.

It is on buses; you often get a can rolling around the floor where
someone has left it, spilling out everywhere and smelling offensively
in a way that a spilled can of Coke or cup of coffee would not.

While I'd rather the ability to drink remained in place (though I
don't believe I have ever consumed alcohol on a Tube train or bus, and
I rarely do on mainline trains), if people can't[1] take their
half-empty cans and bottles with them I think it does offer an overall
benefit that it is not permitted. Provincial bus companies tend to
take it further in not allowing *any* eating and drinking.

It would also be nice to see an enforced ban on hot takeaway food, as
this *really* stinks. Sandwiches and salads don't, so I see no reason
why they should not be permitted so long as the litter is taken with
you[2]. Merseyrail used to operate this kind of a ban of "no hot food
on trains". (And they also ban alcohol, notably).
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