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838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: ‹ŽGoyfire Radio‹ WE...are the Good Guys
Date: May 27, 2008 14:24

The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
fare disputes and drunken clashes.

Documents seen by the Evening Standard show an increasing use of
knives and the involvement of teenagers. There is an upsurge of
disturbances between 3pm and 5pm as pupils go home from school. All
pupils and students under 18 travel free on London buses. But violent
crime is happening at all times of the day - even during the rush
hour. The figures come after Mayor Boris Johnson promised to increase
the presence of uniformed police and police community support officers
on buses.

Internal TfL documents detail every "code red", when bus controllers
at TfL's CentreComm are told by drivers or members of the public of
crime, vandalism and disorder. In 107 days this year 838 violent
incidents were recorded, along with hundreds more incidents of
disturbance and criminal damage. These included:

• Six youths in Barking on board a No287 stabbing a 25-year-old man in
the head at 7pm.
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: John B
Date: May 28, 2008 02:37

On 27 May, 22:24, ▀▌Goyfire Radio▐▀ "WE...are the Good Guys"
googlemail.com> wrote:
> The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
> of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
> reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
> fare disputes and drunken clashes.

Seems pretty reasonable - with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%%
chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042%% chance of being
a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: FACE
Date: May 28, 2008 03:57

From John B johnband.org>, on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
:
>On 27 May, 22:24, ‹ŽGoyfire Radio‹ "WE...are the Good Guys"
>googlemail.com> wrote:
>> The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
>> of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
>> reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
>> fare disputes and drunken clashes.
>
>Seems pretty reasonable - with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
>2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%%
>chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042%% chance of being
>a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.

Well yes, but what does the man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus
think?

FACE
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: Andrew Thomas
Date: May 28, 2008 04:01

On May 28, 11:57 am, FACE today.net> wrote:
> From  John B johnband.org>,  on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
> :
>
>>On 27 May, 22:24, ‹ŽGoyfire Radio ‹ "WE...are the Good Guys"
>>googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
>>> of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
>>> reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
>>> fare disputes and drunken clashes.
>
>>Seems pretty reasonable -  with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
>>2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%%
>>chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042%% chance of being
>>a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.
>
> Well yes, but what does the man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus
> think?
>
> FACE ...
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: John B
Date: May 28, 2008 04:06

On 28 May, 12:01, Andrew Thomas yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>>>> The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
>>>> of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
>>>> reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
>>>> fare disputes and drunken clashes.
>
>>>Seems pretty reasonable - with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
>>>2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%%
>>>chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042%% chance of being
>>>a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.
>
>> Well yes, but what does the man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus
>> think?
>
> The man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus is playing Shaggy
> or something else suitably "urban" at 140 dB through a shitty mobile
> phone loudspeaker and glaring at you menacingly before throwing his
> rubbish around the bus and saying "fock, fock" to his hooded
> neighbour. Nice. ...
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: FACE
Date: May 28, 2008 04:14

From Andrew Thomas yahoo.com.au>, on Wed, 28 May
2008 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT) :
>On May 28, 11:57 am, FACE today.net> wrote:
>> From  John B johnband.org>,  on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
>> :
>>
>>>On 27 May, 22:24, ‹ŽGoyfire Radio ‹ "WE...are the...
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: thagor2008
Date: May 28, 2008 04:36

On May 28, 12:01 pm, Andrew Thomas yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> The man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus is playing Shaggy
> or something else suitably "urban" at 140 dB through a shitty mobile
> phone loudspeaker and glaring at you menacingly before throwing his
> rubbish around the bus and saying "fock, fock" to his hooded
> neighbour. Nice.

Either shops are refusing to sell headphones to teenagers or they do
it on purpose just to piss everyone off or hoping for a argument so
they can prove themselves to their mates. My guess is the latter.

B2003
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: RobWilton
Date: May 28, 2008 04:51

"FACE" today.net> wrote in message
news:o8eq34d0olcl4u9qei9jvpn0ta2ek507gc@4ax.com...
> From John B johnband.org>, on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700
> (PDT)
> :
>
>>On 27 May, 22:24, ‹ŽGoyfire Radio‹ "WE...are the Good Guys"
>>googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
>>> of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
>>> reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
>>> fare disputes and drunken clashes.
>>
>>Seems pretty reasonable - with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
>>2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%%
>>chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042%% chance of being
>>a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.
>
>
> Well yes, but what does the man standing at the back of the Clapham ...
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: William Black
Date: May 28, 2008 05:19

"RobWilton" tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:483d4783_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "FACE" today.net> wrote in message
> news:o8eq34d0olcl4u9qei9jvpn0ta2ek507gc@4ax.com...
>> From John B johnband.org>, on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700
>> (PDT)
>> :
>>
>>>On 27 May, 22:24,
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Re: 838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses         


Author: Keith Anderson
Date: May 28, 2008 05:24

On Wed, 28 May 2008 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Thomas
yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>The man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus is playing Shaggy
>or something else suitably "urban" at 140 dB through a shitty mobile
>phone loudspeaker and glaring at you menacingly before throwing his
>rubbish around the bus and saying "fock, fock" to his hooded
>neighbour. Nice.

Blimey! They get around! His brother and a mate were doing that at the
back of an M48 bus in Berlin the other day! (Except that they were
saying "Scheisse" and "Arschloch" instead of "fock, fock")

All they wants is rispek, innit?

Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen
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