....virginmedia.com: You think it'll be a shame that Shepherd's Bush won't be gloomy and oppressive? Whose side are you on? That of the goths, obviously :) But.. but... but... the Ostrogoths or the Visigoths? Presumably the Visigoths, them being the goths from the west. Although they are to the east of us. And don't get me started on goths invading Germania...

Iain wrote: "Richard J." <rjnews0811@blueukder.co.yon> wrote in news:4Cjlk.37015 $E41.21040@text.news.virginmedia.com: You think it'll be a shame that Shepherd's Bush won't be gloomy and oppressive? Whose side are you on? That of the goths, obviously :) But.. but... but... the Ostrogoths or the Visigoths?

... of Valens at Adrianople. Vandals, Suev, and Alans crossed the Rhine in 406. Barbarian settlement began to expand over much of the western Empire. Vandals, Visigoths, Alans, Suevi, Burgundians, Franks, Ostrogoths and Saxons became an erosive force upon the Empire. Gaul, which had been conquered by Julius Caesar early in his career, became connected with Rome by means of a treaty, in ...