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Author: arioppariopp Date: Jan 18, 2008 10:34
Hi,
I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
Friday 8 February 2008.
There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
The flying time is just over 11 hours.
If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
has already "arrived".
Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
Unusual question but I think quite interesting....
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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Author: Gerald Oliver SwiftGerald Oliver Swift Date: Jan 18, 2008 12:49
> Hi,
> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
> Friday 8 February 2008.
>
> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
>
> If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
> the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
> check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
> actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
> has already "arrived".
>
> Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
You can depart LHR on Friday anytime between 06.00 and 15.30 and still
arrive in LAX before Saturday.
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Jan 18, 2008 13:00
In message <5vchm6F1lgqkoU1@ mid.individual.net>, at 20:49:07 on Fri, 18
Jan 2008, Gerald Oliver Swift hotmail.com> remarked:>WTF has darkness got to do with it? The Sabbath begins at 00.01am on
>Saturday.
No, apparently it does begin at sunset on Friday.
--
Roland Perry
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Author: Keith WillshawKeith Willshaw Date: Jan 18, 2008 13:05
> Hi,
> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
> Friday 8 February 2008.
>
> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
>
> If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
> the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
> check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
> actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
> has already "arrived".
>
> Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
>
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Author: dgsdgs Date: Jan 18, 2008 13:21
ariopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
> Friday 8 February 2008.
If you're really concerned about international travel on a Friday,
switch your flight to Thursday, or wait until Sunday. Problem solved.
> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
>
> If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
> the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
> check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
> actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
> has already "arrived".
>
> Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
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Author: LVTravelLVTravel Date: Jan 18, 2008 13:45
"Keith Willshaw" kwillshawnospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fmr4al$elr$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...>> Hi,
>> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
>> Friday 8 February 2008.
>>
>> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
>> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
>>
>> If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
>> the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
>> check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
>> actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
>> has already "arrived".
>>
>> Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
>> ...
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Author: John DoeJohn Doe Date: Jan 18, 2008 14:19
ariopp wrote:
> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
Such flights might pass just south of Iqaluit (YFB). At this time of
year, sunset is at 14:35 local time, 19:35 GMT. (but some times, those
flight pass much to the south, depending on winds).
LHR-LAX is 4741nm. At 11 hours, this averages 431 knots (nm/h)
LHR-YFB is 2195nm. At 431 knots, it would take just over 5 hours to get
there.
LHR-YQR (Regina) is 3591 nm. 8 hours 20 minutes to get there. Sunset at
Regina is at 17:25 local, 23:25 GMT.
If you depart at 11:30, you would be flying over near YFB at about 16:30
GMT. Well before sunset. You'll be flying over Regina at about 20:00
GMT, still quite ahead of sunset.
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Author: LVTravelLVTravel Date: Jan 18, 2008 14:29
> Hi,
> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
> Friday 8 February 2008.
>
> There is a BA flight round about 10am & a Virgin flight at 11.30am.
> The flying time is just over 11 hours.
>
> If I catch either of these flights I will arrive in LAX well before
> the Sabbath commences in LAX. However, my Rabbi has said that I should
> check on the route the flight takes as it may go far enough North to
> actually encounter a time of darkness thus meaning that the Sabbath
> has already "arrived".
>
> Could you please advise if either of these flights do?
>
> Unusual question but I think quite interesting....
>
> Thanks in advance for all the help! ...
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Author: JeffJeff Date: Jan 18, 2008 16:33
should be daylight all the way, westbound. The problem would be on the
return, due to the time change.
Jeff
"ariopp" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5958061d-7d43-45a3-856b-7679b8c29f50@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...> Hi,
> I am a practicing Orthodox Jew and wish to travel form LHR to LAX on
> Friday...
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