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>>>>>>>>> "Colin Mckechnie"
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>>>>>>>>> news:FOY3i.5730$GX1.2941@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...>>>>>>>>>>> whats your views on it is it
>>>>>>>>>>> worh getting or is best to stick with XP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vista is great.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have Ultimate (installed on an old PC) and my daughter has Home
>>>>>>>>>> Premium (which came with a new PC).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Almost everything about Vista is better than XP. It looks great,
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> more secure, it's more reliable and its multimedia capabilities
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> outstanding - especially the built-in Media Centre which is
>>>>>>>>>> effectively a combination of music centre, DVD player, TV and Sky
>>>>>>>>>> Plus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It will run fine on any half decent hardware (my PC is an
>>>>>>>>>> old(-ish)
>>>>>>>>>> Athlon 3000). It's more memory hungry than CPU intensive so spend
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> money on more RAM than a super-fast CPU (I have 1½Gb RAM). But
>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>> that there are Vista drivers for your hardware (although you can
>>>>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>>>>> XP drivers to work - there is an XP emulation mode - but this
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> reduce the reliability of Vista although nothing worse than XP).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bobby
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hmm interesting think ill maybe upgrade during the week then
>>>>>>>>>> i have an athlon x2 4200 and 2gb of ram and a x1600pro graphics
>>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>> so should run ok based on what you have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> did you guys do an upgrade? im toying with the fresh install
>>>>>>>>>> method thats also on the upgrade dvd..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DO NOT UPGRADE. Do a clean install. Trust me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yeah i would normally do that although i know vista upgrade disk is
>>>>>>>> slightly different did you do the clean install using the upgrade
>>>>>>>> disk mark?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you can do a clean install using an upgrade disc, that's what I
>>>>>>> did. You just have to make sure you start the installation disc from
>>>>>>> within XP/2000, don't boot straight from the CD, otherwise it won't
>>>>>>> let you do a clean install from the upgrade disc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ah was planning on formatting the c:\ and installing from dos
>>>>>> im sure this is also possible
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> found it...
>>>>>
>>>>> The process described is as follows:
>>>>> Boot to the Windows Vista Upgrade disc and click "Install Now";
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not enter your product key when prompted and then select which
>>>>> edition of Vista you have - this installs Windows Vista as a 30-day
>>>>> trial;
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the installation is completed, restart the setup programme from
>>>>> within Windows Vista and enter your product key when prompted;
>>>>>
>>>>> Choose either an Upgrade or Custom (advanced) install - the latter
>>>>> will complete another fresh install of Vista;
>>>>>
>>>>> Once complete, you should be able to activate Vista as normal.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that'll work too - but it amounts to the same thing I said, which
>>>> is: to do a clean install from an upgrade disc, you must start the
>>>> installation from within a valid copy of Windows (either XP/2000 (what
>>>> I said) or Vista (what you're saying)).
>>>>
>>>> The way you're suggesting means doing 2 installations. Totally
>>>> unnecessary if you already have XP/2000. The ONLY reason you need to
>>>> start it from within Windows is to prove you have an existing copy, and
>>>> are therefore upgrading despite the fact you want to do a clean
>>>> install. It's done like this to stop people who DON'T have Windows
>>>> currently from buying a cheaper upgrade disc instead of a full retail
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> You still get the option to format the drive before the install
>>>> actually starts.
>>>
>>>
>>> ah i did not know that cheers mark
>>>
>>> so upgrading from windows def gives you the option to format the drive?
>>> your 100%% sure before i bite the bullit and start :-)
>>>
>>
>> Totally sure. You have to choose "Advanced" or something like that at
>> one of the early screens to see the Format option, but it's definitely
>> there.
>>
>> Another bit of advice - DO NOT ACTIVATE Vista straight away - you've got
>> 30 days grace (extendable to 120, search Google) to activate. A few guys
>> I know got caught out by activating to quickly - they activated, then
>> found Vista was incompatible with some extra hardware they had, and once
>> they added that hardware Vista treated it as a new machine and they had
>> to buy another Product Code from M$.
>>
>> So my advice is DO NOT activate - install it, then use it as normal, but
>> try out all your hardware, get all drivers set up, etc, including bits of
>> hardware you may have lying around that you only use every so often. If
>> you find you need upgrade anything, do it. Then when it's all a-ok and
>> running as you'd like it, THEN activate.
>>
>> Also note that an un-activated copy in the first 30 (or 120 if you apply
>> a (legal) fix) days is fully functional, not restricted in any way.
None at all. The only problems I had were nVidia not releasing a proper
driver (until recently). But anyhoo, that's nVidia's fault, not Vista's.
