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Group: uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic · Group Profile
Author: FishSupper
Date: Apr 21, 2008 06:40

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>>>>>
>>>>> Only in your tiny mind. Any decent individual will agree that what
>>>>> those lowlife scum are doing is glorification. Laughing & joking about
>>>>> the matter and then kidding on there is a serious goal. Glorification,
>>>>> plain and simple.
>>>>
>>>> Now you're saying that if we don't agree with your hysterical
>>>> description we're not decent human beings? Totally fuckin lost it.
>>>> The hypocricy of these people in using the subject to have a go at
>>>> Celtic and pretending there is anything more worthy behind it is what
>>>> makes them reprehensible. Your description of that as a glorification
>>>> of paedophilia is what makes you hysterical and your assertion that
>>>> anyone who disagrees with you makes you ridiculous.
>>>
>>> Utter nonsense. It is quite clearly glorification of the topic. This
>>> campaign is one of the most shameful in the history of your club, if you
>>> can't see that, you're living in a world of blue tinted glasses.
>>
>> It's only glorification to people who are so warped with hatred of
>> Rangers that they have lost any sense of proportion and objectivity they
>> may have had. Something which is evident with the claim that this
>> 'campaign' (yet more extreme terminology) has to do with the club. I
>> wasn't aware that the BJK 'campaign' was part of Rangers FC.
>
> The people running the campaign are well connected to your club. They are
> prominent supporters and run the most popular RFC message board and the
> Rangers Suopporters Trust. It's fucking amazing that my disgust at this
> can be turned around by people such that it's me that has a problem and
> not the lowlife perps. Fucking unbelieveable, so it is.

There is of course no evidence that anyone who is connected with Rangers is
invoved in this 'campaign'. Nor is there any evidence that those who are
involved in this campaign are in any way connected with Rangers. More
invention and wishful thinking.
>>>>>>> The thing that gets me is that the guys who run FF and are heavily
>>>>>>> involved in the RST have happily taken the credit for inventing this
>>>>>>> as if it is some kind of badge of honour. This was not something
>>>>>>> created by a few mindless thugs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, you would rather criticise those who are abhored by this
>>>>>>> than the perpetrators themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong again. So far, I've called the singers of these songs "idiots"
>>>>>> and said that their motivation is "reprehensible". If that's not what
>>>>>> you would call criticism, pass me a dictionary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good for you. But when I criticise the same morons, I am "ridiculous"
>>>>> and "hysterical". Now why would that be Mr Deflector?
>>>>
>>>> Because of your choice of vocabulary and because you throw about
>>>> accusations that are proved to be rubbish - in the very same thread
>>>> that you make the accusation.
>>>
>>> What accusations have been proven to be rubbish?
>>
>>
>> Your accusation that I would not criticise the people involved - which
>> has proved to be rubbish on account of how I called them idiots and
>> reprehensible well before you accused me of not criticising them.
>
> I said "I dont recall you condemning this behaviour". That is not an
> accusation, not even close. Who's being hysterical now?

FFS look 16 lines up in this very thread!

You said: "Of course, you would rather criticise those who are abhored by
this than the perpetrators themselves."

So, as we see, you DID make the accusation and it WAS proved to be rubbish.
Just like everything else you've written on this.
> You are still more concerned with attacking me than dealing with the
> behaviour. To describe someone who is appalled by this as "hysterical" is
> fucking low.

"attacking you"? You're the one throwing childish insults and false
accusations in a hysterical manner.
>>>>>> You, on the other hand have done nothing but try to deflect away from
>>>>>> yet another piece of thuggery by the celtic home support and the
>>>>>> inaction of Celtic FC by wittering on about paper cups at Ibrox and
>>>>>> songs being sung in Milan.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only one deflecting is you (I suppose I should be flattered by
>>>>> your plagiarism here). These things happen all the time at football -
>>>>> your supporters caved in a team bus window not that long ago. What
>>>>> happened to the perps? Your fans indulged in racist banners at an OF
>>>>> game a couple of weeks ago. What happened to the perps? You're
>>>>> bringing this up because you would rather avoid talking about how
>>>>> badly wrong you got your prediction and how badly your team was beaten
>>>>> & outplayed by a pretty poor Celtic side.
>>>>
>>>> Apples and pears. I'm talking about the behaviour of your home support
>>>> and the inaction of Celtic FC when there is proof of thuggery. You are
>>>> talking about the rangers away support over whom Rangers FC have little
>>>> or no control.
>>>
>>> Where's yir proof about Celtic's inaction? Oh, that's right, you don't
>>> have any. There have been several people banned from Celtic Park in
>>> recent years.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> You made the claim that Celtic did nothing, you prove it. Can't, can you?

There has never been a case of a perpetrator being identified and banned. My
proof is that you can find no evidence to the contrary.
>>>>>> Of course, you would rather criticise those who condemn such thuggery
>>>>>> than criticise the perpetrators themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> More plagiarism, thanks Fish Supper.
>>>>
>>>> You don't do irony, do you?
>>>
>>> Funny isnt it. Celtic lose to Rangers, Rangers fans indulge in racist
>>> banners and slogans, the big lie chant etc. Celtic fans accept their
>>> defeat like adults and move on, little or no comment on crowd behaviour.
>>
>> All we hear from you is accusations of racism. So that's a crock.
>
> It's not. Your attempt to defend the t-shirts and slogans are pretty
> reprehensible to be honest. "Nakamura ate my dog" is yet more shameful and
> unacceptable behaviour in this day and age.

More rubbish. Where did I defend it? I said that whether or not it was
racist is open to debate. Saying that something can be discussed isn't
defending it.
>> You are equally forthcoming in condemning the BJKers. So that's crap too.
>
> The only reason I brought this up is because people like you are trying to
> score some cheap points because you got beat, showing up your utter
> hypocrisy.

More insults. And yes YOU brought up the subject of paedophilia, nobody
else. And why? Purely to try to deflect and score points - so to be called a
hypocrite by you is beyond belief.
>> The reason you can't comment on crowd behavious is because there was
>> nothing to comment on. No missiles thrown. Nobody attacked.
>
> And no comment from me on BJK singing or racist slogans after the game
> when we lost.
>
>>> Rangers get beat and instead of accepting it, Rangers fans start whining
>>> about coins and crowd behaviour when your own fans have indulged in
>>> behaviour which is just as bad, if not worse.
>>
>> Excuse me for criticising the morons who threw missiles at an injured
>> player and the doctor who was treating him - something you have never
>> seen and never will see happen at Ibrox. You know why? Because we just
>> don't do that sort of thing.
>
> Rubbish. You have panned in a team bus in Spain, you have hurled coins at
> players and officials, Neil Lennon had coins flung at him at the last
> Ibrox game and so did the Celtic dugout and there were misslies thrown at
> the Wednesday game by Rangers fans. Take off the blue tinted specs.

More hysteria. 'panned in a team bus'. Some drunk lobbed a wine bottle that
broke a window. These missiles that were thrown by Rangers fans - these are
the same ones that "some guy talked about", that weren't mentioned in the
referees report and were never actually identified? That the ones?
>>> In recent history, one set of fans from Glasgow has a UEFA & FIFA fair
>>> play award, the other set has caused their club to be fined and warned
>>> because oftheir behaviour. Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it!
>>
>> At home? At Ibrox? Don't remember that. I do remember that Celtic had to
>> play a European game behind closed doors because of their fans throwing
>> missiles at the away team. The only time that a scottish club has been
>> humiliated in this way.
>
> When was that, 25-30 years ago? Do you remember Rangers being banned from
> Europe and being awarded a European trophy in a broom cupboard? PMSL!

Brilliant. You use a time frame to try to weaken my arguement and then refer
to something that happened even longer ago. Far from getting banned, we
should have got an award for giving Franco's henchmen a good kicking.
>> I'll give you this, at least you're equal opportunities thugs - you'll
>> try to injure opposition players regardless of race or religion.
>
> My last word on the topic. I've made my point. I actually think you are a
> reasonable poster. I strongly disagree with your comments in this thread
> and think you are talking a load of shite. But I would much rather argue
> with people like you than the jim's and Andy Morrisons of this NG, so I'll
> agree to disagree with you and move on.

You haven't actually made any points - just thrown around groundless
accusations, peppered with extremist vocabulary and insults.

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