Group: uk.sport.football.clubs.celtic · Group Profile
Author: smesme Date: Sep 8, 2008 02:24
"Jonbhoy" champsagain.com> wrote in
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> "guitierrez" blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B10EFFDD538Fguit@130.133.1.4...
>> "sepang" wc.com> wrote in
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>>> In Scotland you don't drop and press charges like in England,the
>>> Procurator Fiscal decides if the evidence is enough to get a
>>> conviction helping to stop retractions through intimidation by
>>> taking it out of your hands.
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>> The Police tend to visit the victim of an assault to gather
>> information and see if the victim wishes to "take it further". I'm no
>> expert but I'd imagine it wouldn't be passed to the fiscal unless the
>> victim decided to take the matter further rather than chalk it down
>> to experience, as it were. Again, I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that
>> if the incident was serious enough to warrant a prosecution
>> regardless of the victims wish not to proceed then it would be out of
>> the victim's hands as to whether charges were brought against the
>> perpetrator(s). The only reasons I can imagine that he wouldn't want
>> to take it further is that; a) He's embarrassed that he was out when
>> he knows he probably shouldn't have been and wants it to go away.
>> b) He's had enough hassle in his life and just wants to get on with
>> things without creating even more hatred towards himself.
>> c) He came off worse in a bit of bother he was directly involved in.
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>> Now, if Lennon was indeed the victim of a "sectarian attack" then he
>> has my full sympathy - such things shouldn't (but unfortunately do)
>> happen - but what was he doing in Ashton Lane on the night of an Old
>> Firm game? I personally make sure I don't go out in Town after an OF
>> game because I know there is too much potential for trouble. He is,
>> however, an employee of Celtic and, rightly or wrongly, should have
>> known it wasn't the best time to go out on the lash, especially after
>> they've just been humped. He doesn't strike me as an idiot. Was he
>> looking for trouble? I don't get it...
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> Now that last paragraph was something i ummm'd and ahh'd over for a
> few days . I know when we lost i certainly didnt fancy going out that
> night to drown my sorrows but then again i dont drink . Some people
> may want to do it to relax.I did think the same about why would he be
> out that night as he may end up getting pelters from Rangers fans
> celebrating (Im sure rangers players when out and have lost an OF game
> have had banter thrown at them,bragging rights etc) . But then i
> thought why should he be stopped from going out ?He has not commited a
> crime so he is free to go where he likes when he likes.When there are
> derbys in London , Birmingham , Manchester or Liverpool players hve
> gone out and about without being attacked (Ok as before they might get
> a few neds shouting a few things from across the street but as far as
> i know never a player attacked.In fact in england it seems its the
> players that attack the fans these days!) . So my view is obviously
> dont walk into a Rangers supporters club or pub the night you have
> lost an OF game but the guy was having a drink in a regular Bar and he
> had every right to do that.
Thought that last post was a wind up to be honest. Lennon shouldn't have
been out coz his team got humped that day? Surely, as Liam pointed out,
that has no, or shouldn't have any significance? The crime here is the
assault on Lennon, not Lennon having a drink with friends after his team
got beaten. As always in Scotland, these people will have told their
pals, bragged about it to workmates and not one will do the decent thing
and look past the football and see a man was seriously assaulted for
supporting the wrong team. Lets hope that these guys never end up on the
receiving end just for being 'one of them'.
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sme
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