After much chatter from Paul and after being asked a POR question by a
member of this newsgroup, I note from rules 3.1c and 3.1d that we need to
determine whether or not a child who comes along is a "british subject"[1]
or not. [Because we need to seek the DCs permission to admit them if
not]....

Does anyone actually follow this really strange rule?

Mike

[1] according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_subject you need to be
a lawyer to work this one out... although it is mostly

A person who is:
(a) a British citizen, a British Overseas Territories citizen or a British
Overseas citizen; or
(b) a person who under the British Nationality Act 1981 is a British
subject; or
(c) a British protected person (within the meaning of that Act).

On 11 May, 22:22, "Mike Hudgell" hudgell.co.uk> wrote:

Never even heard of it - but I can see two possible reasons for it:-

1. Determining an appropriate Promise for those who cannot promise to
do their duty to the Queen because of another national allegiance;

2. Allowing discretion to be used for an adult who is effectively "un-
CRB-able" because their past record will not be accessible to the CRB
or Association by being in another country.

Neil

On 11 May, 22:22, "Mike Hudgell" hudgell.co.uk> wrote:

I don't think I'm going out on a limb here when I say that our DC
would be really surprised if we felt we needed to ask his permission
for a non-British-national Scout to join the Group.

Neil makes a good point below about possible CRB issues for adults,
but as far as the YP are concerned, this is really a non-issue. I just
let the non-UK-national Scouts choose which version of the Promise
they'd prefer to make. Technically (POR1.1j) I think this is the GSLs
decision to make - I guess he's delegating it to me and I'm delegating
it to the Scout themselves :)

Best wishes.

On Tue, 13 May 2008 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT), SL_wimbledon@yahoo.co.uk
wrote: