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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Dave
Date: Aug 28, 2007 08:26

"Tim Jones" btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> So how much did you pay for rock climbing? It makes me weep to see
> scout groups regularly paying anywhere near their quoted prices when
> we've got instructors waiiting for work on real rock that wouldn't
> cost anywhere near their quoted
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Tim Jones
Date: Aug 28, 2007 14:58

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:26:13 +0100, "Dave"
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>You may have the instructors - unfortunately some areas do not and end up
>having to pay over the odds.
>
>It is also fine if the instructors within Scouting are willing and available
>when you need...
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: James Bentall
Date: Aug 29, 2007 00:05

In article <46d49975.7612421@news.btinternet.com>,
wildenfarm@btopenworld.com (Tim Jones) wrote:
> The problem is more to do with how you can find details of available
> instructors in the area you are visiting. We could almost certainly
> have turned out instructors to South Wales for
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Dave
Date: Aug 29, 2007 01:28

"Tim Jones" btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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SNIP
> The problem is more to do with how you can find details of available
> instructors in the area you are visiting. We could almost certainly
> have turned out instructors to South Wales for
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Ewan Scott
Date: Aug 29, 2007 03:04

>One idea would be if instructors who were willing to do this liased with
>their local sites and got them to advertise the fact in their publicity
>material.
>
>It is fine saying that there are suitable crags for climbing in the area but
>if they could also say that there are instructors who may be available to
>run sessions and either arrange to take bookings or pass the details on.
>
>We have a site that has suitable crags, a sailing/canoeing centre near etc.
>If you want to use it though there appears to be no info about how you may
>get peaople to help you, and to be totally honest our site could be used for
>all sorts but actually on site I don't believe there is anything but
>pionerring poles.
>
Your site has a good location, if lousy access :-)

Climbing kit is an awkward one if it is going to get used away from a
climbing wall. It needs perhaps a tighter control over use and
inspection than any other kit - let's face it, a plastic kayak either
floats or it doesn't. A frayed rope is a very different matter.
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Dave
Date: Aug 29, 2007 03:15

"Ewan Scott" btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
>>One idea would be if instructors who were willing to do this liased with
>>their local sites and got them to advertise the fact in their publicity
>>material.
>>
>>It is fine saying that there are suitable crags for climbing in the area
>>but
>>if they could also say that there are instructors who may be available to
>>run sessions and either arrange to take bookings or pass the details on.
>>
>>We have a site that has suitable crags, a sailing/canoeing centre near
>>etc.
>>If you want to use it though there appears to be no info about how you may
>>get peaople to help you, and to be totally honest our site could be used
>>for
>>all sorts but actually on site I don't believe there is anything but
>>pionerring poles.
>> ...
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Ewan Scott
Date: Aug 29, 2007 04:39

>Not suggesting that things should be stored there necessarily. It is just
>that there is nothing there other than pioneering poles (I believe the ropes
>are not there so you need to organise having use of them), the grass sledges
>got nicked, the conservation area ??? and a camp fire circle.

There are quite a few sites that say "bring your own ropes". It is
often an insurance thing, but I'd hazard a guess that at Sconce it is
a control and monitoring issue - I suppose the same thing really.
>It is a reasonable base for walking on the moors but all other activities
>need bringing in. I have seen archery and shooting there but all the gear
>has to be brought by those providing the activity. It would be good if
>something could be there however little.

To be honest I think that with archery and shooting the best practice
is to bring it in, or to have a dedicated locked store with only one
person with access and control over maintenance and use. And at most
campsites that just isn't going to be a reality.
>On the other hand it does get a lot of use so it must be fine for those that
>use it who possibly want to use it as a base for other things or simply
>camping.
>
>> Whitley Beaumont has a few ropes...
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Tim Jones
Date: Aug 29, 2007 06:09

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:15:48 +0100, "Dave"
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Climbing kit is an awkward one if it is going to get used away from a
>> climbing wall. It needs perhaps a tighter control over use and
>> inspection than any other kit - let's face it, a plastic kayak either
>> floats or it doesn't. A frayed rope is a very different matter.
>>
>
>I agree and as such if you are climbing then if you have authorisation then
>you would hopefully have your own group's gear as you would appreciate that
>fact. Any gear provided by the site would have to be used only by those who
>are in the "employ" of the site so that the usage can be monitored and
>logged.

Why? .

Is this one of those local rules everyone keeps on harping on about?

If it's logged and inspected it can be used anywhere by any qualified
leader. If it's not logged and inspected no-one should be using it
with Scouts!
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Re: Hygiene at camp         


Author: Tim Jones
Date: Aug 29, 2007 06:10

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:51:28 +0000, Ewan Scott
btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>One idea would be if instructors who were willing to do this liased with
>>their local sites and got them to advertise the fact in their publicity
>>material.
>>
>>It is fine saying that there are...
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Muddy campsite access Was: Hygiene at camp         


Date: Aug 29, 2007 06:12

On 29 Aug, 11:15, "Dave" blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> kids are dropped off at the car park on the road and the kids walk over the
> moor and just allow vehicles with gear on site. Bad if it is wet!!

Like the end of this year's Malvern Challenge - we had a worrying
moment as the minibus slid slowly backwards through the mud... amusing
in retrospect though, and there was a Landrover standing by to tow us
out (well done the organisers).

The minibus just made it... waving people out of the way so we
wouldn't have to stop moving and start again (the tricky bit).

Best wishes.
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