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Author: SteveSteve
Date: Dec 9, 2006 06:10
> You're allowing yourself to get into a situation where YOU decide if a
> complaint of abuse has legs,that's a dangerous situation to allow.
I read manky badgers comments quite differently, he was refering to a
known incident in the past.
If some one makes a series of allegations, and no actions are taken
against the leaders as a consequence, then its reasonble to assume that
the allegations were 'baseless'.
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Date: Dec 8, 2006 17:35
In message news.btopenworld.com>, Marc
btinternet.com> writes>In article giganews.com>,
>you.must@be.joking says...>>
>> The group up the road from us had some brat make all sorts of "yellow card"
>> allegations after a camp but fully expected to stay on in cubs after making
>> these, and yes - kicking him out was prejudicial as well.
>
>Hmm look at this from the other direction....
>A child was abused, and then was slung out when he complained about it?
OK looked at from the other direction. The child was allegedly abused
and the child and Parents have complained. If you were the Parent would
you want your child to continue in the Cub Pack/ Scout Troop or would
feel happier taking them elsewhere?
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Paul Harris
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Author: andyandy
Date: Dec 8, 2006 16:43
Knowlege Is Powder wrote:
> I have been told by one of the newer Scouts that their parents have tried to
> sue other organisations etc but have failed.
>
> I told her that if any anyone is inclined to do that at Scouts, they will...
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Author: MarcMarc
Date: Dec 8, 2006 16:43
In article giganews.com>,
you.must@be.joking says...>> We are currently being sued by a scout who fell and injured themselves
>> (details are sub judice, but extremely unlikely to be our fault)... and
>> the advice from above was kicking him out because he's sued you could be
>> prejudicial...
>
> The group up the road from us had some brat make all sorts of "yellow card"
> allegations after a camp but fully expected to stay on in cubs after making
> these, and yes - kicking him out was prejudicial as well.
>
Hmm look at this from the other direction....
A child was abused, and then was slung out when he complained about it?
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Author: Tim JonesTim Jones
Date: Dec 8, 2006 16:41
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:00:04 GMT, "Stephen Rainsbury"
rainsbury.net-spamnet- -> wrote:
>Bums pressed send too early!
>
>Please read the referred to document, I can feel a long thread on this one,
>but lets start off by saying I think that there is plenty on the document
>that deserves praise.
>
>One thing that I couldn't quite get my head round was when it refers to
>Scout Shops and Scout Insurance Services as being "subsidery companies", to
>me that suggest the SA is a company. If thats the case shouldn't we get
>wages? can we form a union? How much holiday do I get? Is there overtime
>allowance? Can I claim mileage and overnight or per diem expenses? Is there
>a benefits package?
>
To be honest I don't know about all those things. I do know that I'm
thoroughly sick of all this corporate bullshit speak that some muppets
high up in the SA seem to favour these days. We a voluntry youth
organisation not some big company ;(
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Author: baloobaloo
Date: Dec 8, 2006 05:16
chris.5th wrote:
> Check out steve's website... hawaii camps and all sorts. I visited his
> pinewood derby. And wow! judging by the car park, the parents aren't
> short of a bob or two.
I have just had a quick look round his site - and it is very
impressive. What we wouldn't do for a hall like that!, and if you are
doing all those overseas trips, I might just put in for a transfer
(group and section)!
Steve, I have been looking for a photo quiz for an upcoming District
Sixers & Seconders day, and found yours - thanks very much. If I can
return the favour I have about 17 photos on the same idea if you are
ever interested. I couldn't use those as my lot have just done them as
apart of an observation programme - mind you it would be interesting to
see how many they remember!!
BTW, do you hire out your hall to other groups for weekends? - We are
always on the look out for new venues for pack holidays, especially as
we need to get full use of our new minibus!
Peter
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Author: eddieeddie
Date: Dec 6, 2006 11:00
>>
>> I've seen one person put badges onto a polo shirt (SAD GET!) I think I
>> yelled when i saw it.
>>
> We recently had a Scout join us from elsewhere in the country and he had a
> polo shirt with all the badges on it. Obviously with short sleeves he
> couldn't get many achievement badges on :-) However he did have membership
> badge, moving up, unit, district and county badges. Apparently that was
> standard uniform at his old troop.
>
> Stephen
As some of you know, our troop decided not to be involved with achievement
badges, so when one of my very bright and active scouts became part of the
Jamboree contingent I felt sorry for him to have such bare sleeves and asked
him to make list of any badges he thought he could have earned and I would
give them to him to sew-on. ( becuase I can) His reply was suprisingly
supportive and mature, he said, "People have asked why I havn't any badges
and I told them that our troop is different" He said he was grateful for me
asking, but was happy with how we did things.
Eddie ...
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Author: GoodersGooders
Date: Dec 6, 2006 10:37
> I'd be up for uniform experimentation. I like the way we have
> "Activity" Polo Shirts avalible for all sections, thing is as an option
> its a bit pricy, so thus isnt something that gets bought often.
>
> I've seen one person put badges onto a polo shirt (SAD GET!) I think I
> yelled when i saw it.
>
We recently had a Scout join us from elsewhere in the country and he had a
polo shirt with all the badges on it. Obviously with short sleeves he
couldn't get many achievement badges on :-) However he did have membership
badge, moving up, unit, district and county badges. Apparently that was
standard uniform at his old troop.
Stephen
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Author:
Date: Dec 6, 2006 08:46
In message 4ax.com>, Ewan Scott
btinternet.com> writes
>No special rules at all. just the way it is. If I am asked to be an
>ESL, then I run the Unit. Just as if I am asked to e GSL, then I run
>the Group the way I see fit, otherwise there is no point in me being
>the GSL.
>
Surely the BSL, CSL or SL run* their respective Sections under the GSL
who has different responsibilities just the same as the ESL "runs" the
Unit under the DESC (if there is one). You seem to be saying I am in
charge or I am taking my ball away.
*Runs of course has different connotations as the YP get older and take
a more active part in the decision making process.
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Paul Harris
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Author: KateKate
Date: Dec 6, 2006 06:56
Many thanks to the person who suggested decorating candles with wax
crayons - I did this with the cubs last night & they loved it.
They also enjoyed decorating (plastic!) wine glasses using egg white (as
glue) & caster sugar.
--
Kate
ABSL 1st Weald Brook, Essex.
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