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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Steve
Date: Dec 19, 2006 23:40

> I think that it is fair enough if there is genuine pain and suffering
> however who is to say what is and what is not a genuine claim.

I dont understand how money can compensate for pain and suffering.
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author:
Date: Dec 19, 2006 15:55

In message <1166565884.627867.235920@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Steve yahoo.co.uk> writes
>
>The issue in question is whether people who suffer no financial loss
>should get compo for 'pain and suffering'
>
I think that it is fair enough if there is genuine pain and suffering
however who is to say what is and what is not a genuine claim.
--
Paul Harris
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Steve
Date: Dec 19, 2006 14:04

Easy to get lost in the detail of who is to blame etc.

The issue in question is whether people who suffer no financial loss
should get compo for 'pain and suffering'
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Gooders
Date: Dec 19, 2006 14:04

"Horus Kol" horuskol.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1166543960.772891.303070@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>
> Steve wrote:
>>> sorry, did that come across as an opinion?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> I apologise - it was not meant to be an opinion
>

Was it intended as a statement of fact?
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  Seasonal cheer         


Author: John McMahon
Date: Dec 19, 2006 11:01

Well it's that time of year again when all the schools and shops get shut
and our Christian country graciously allows all to join in the celebration
of the birth of our Lord and saviour.

Right, that's got SR's attention!

So, if Santa could bring you anything in his Teal Helicopter what would you
want for our Centenary?

I'll kick it off;
I want a Sierra zip stove http://www.zzstove.com/

I want a Kelly Kettle (formerly produced near me, but company has been
dissolved, so now what can I do?)
http://www.kellykettle.com/

I want a new headlamp for camp
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40-LED-HEAD-LAMP-LIGHT-TORCH-WATERPROOF-CAMPING-HIKING_W0Q...

Happy Yule / Hannika / Christmas / Centenary or whatever!

May the Force be with you!

John McMahon
ADC Scouts
Leamington District
www.warkcom.net/lspascouts
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Horus Kol
Date: Dec 19, 2006 07:57

Dave wrote:
> "Horus Kol" horuskol.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1166538766.801540.263030@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> SNIP
>> My grandmother aunt had a nasty trip because of a badly paved footpath
>> - caused bruising to the face and hips, broken wrist, and shopping
>> everywhere...
>> No compensation could be claimed because of some silly limit on the
>> amount of "deviation in the paving slab... that and the fact the
>> council replaced the slab before it could be recorded into evidence -
>> is that fair?
>
> Difficult to say. Who decides whether the pavement is badly maintained and
> what the limits are.
>
> In this type of incident I think that the problem if there is one needs
> bringing to the attention of those that need to maintain that. Some people -
> particularly the young and old can misjudge things like tripping over a
> pavement edge etc.
> ...
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Steve
Date: Dec 19, 2006 07:28

> My grandmother aunt had a nasty trip because of a badly paved footpath
> - caused bruising to the face and hips, broken wrist, and shopping
> everywhere...
> No compensation could be claimed because of some silly limit on the
> amount of "deviation in the paving slab... that and the fact the
> council replaced the slab before it could be recorded into evidence -
> is that fair?

Depends on your meaning of fair.

If she suffered no fianacial loss, then or forseen, then I dont think
'compensation' should be paid.

There are very many places in the urban environment where we can injure
ourselves. Streets round by me have driveways from the road over the
pavement. There is often a small lip across the pavement, I have been
tripped over them myself, I dont think if I injure myself the taxpayer
should cough up with compo.
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Horus Kol
Date: Dec 19, 2006 06:32

Dave wrote:
> "Steve" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1166530551.163341.47670@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>> I agree - but in most cases it is down to the fact that there are so
> many
>>> claims that are unnecessary and these could be changed if the laws were
>>> correct.
>>
>> How could a law be introduced that would prevent 'uneccessary' claims,
>> without prevention 'necessary' claims ?
>>
>
> Perhaps not a law as such but with courts knowing what is acceptable as a
> claim.
>
> If someone trips in the street and there is no real injury or damage they
> often claim on the basis of hurt feelings. That in my opinion should be
> thrown out of court and the person making the claim be left with costs.
>
> On the other hand if someone falls down a hole in the street which has been ...
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Steve
Date: Dec 19, 2006 05:38

> If someone trips in the street and there is no real injury or damage they
> often claim on the basis of hurt feelings.

I once fell off a climbing wall and hurt my foor, it hurt like hell and
still troubles me slightly today. No doubt if I had sued I would have
got some compo, but I cant see how it would have helped the pain at
all.
> That in my opinion should be
> thrown out of court and the person making the claim be left with costs.

Then they would have to scrap the no contigency fee basis on which
ambulance chasers are no working.
> On the other hand if someone falls down a hole in the street which has been
> inadequately fenced and they end up with clothing damage and time off work
> for which they are out of pocket then yes have some payout.

Yep.
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  Re: Child safety rules 'scare' adults         


Author: Steve
Date: Dec 19, 2006 03:08

I don't think you can entirely blame the Government for the
situation.

Its more likely the great british public who expect that children are
always going to be 'safe' and will readily sue when something goes
wrong. Organisations are then forced, by ever increasing insurance
premiums, to adopt very defensive approaches to how they organise
activities.

Until there is a scheme of no fault compensation for injuries or
accidents etc in this country (which seems highly unlikely) I cant see
the situation changing.
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