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	<title><![CDATA[Re: A Quick Thanks .. and a Moment of Madness ...]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, aigle_de_la_route wrote:<br><br>> What I do have, however, is a pain in my right leg now.  Right at the <br>> 'crease' between the lower belly, and the upper thigh.  It feels like.. <br>> well, like a 'cramped' (as distinct from 'cramp') pain.<br><br>Funnily enough, i've got a touch of that right now. I think it's referred <br>pain from my, erm, balls, which is supect stems from a slightly too high <br>saddle and a long ride over bumpy ground at the weekend.<br><br>BICBW.<br><br>tom<br><br>-- <br>Wikipedia topics: lists of trains, Mortal Kombat characters, one-time<br>villains from Mario games, road intersections, boring suburban schools,<br>garage bands, cats, webcomics, Digimon, Bionicle characters, webforums,<br>characters from English soap operas, and Mortal Kombat characters that<br>don't exist -- Uncyclopedia<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Tyler Hamilton et al at the Tour of Britain]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Ekul Namsob wrote:<br><br>>I have read today that the organisers of the Tour of Britain have not<br>>only invited Rock Racing to the party but have not taken the precaution<br>>of advising that team's most tainted riders from keeping away from the<br>>race.<br>><br>>Am I being particularly extreme in no longer wishing to be a volunteer<br>>marshal at the race?<br><br>If you want to decide to marshal or not perhaps take a look at the<br>latest rider list and see who you will be watching flash past in a few<br>nano seconds or not depending on their past or present drug use.<br><br><a href="http://www.tourofbritain.com/mediacentre_pages/media_centre_downloads/Tour%%20of%%20Britain%%20Rider%%20List.pdf" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.tourofbritain.com/mediacentre_pages/media_centre_downloads/Tour%%20of...</a><br><br>Of course the biggest downer is that money talks and Team Colombia<br>have taken our Cav to go and entertain their top brass in Missouri :-(<br>-- <br>Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Wessex 100 stops]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know where the rest stops are for the Wessex 100. Thanks<br>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:34:22 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: A Quick Thanks .. and a Moment of Madness ...]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[aigle_de_la_route said the following on 04/09/2008 23:46:<br>> with my legs spinning around nineteen to the dozen.<br>><br>> Anyway, the result is that for whatever reason, I have no pain in my <br>> left leg.  This surprises me as I've always used high gears when <br>> cycling, but then maybe I'm just getting old.<br><br>It doesn't surprise me.  Many people push too high a gear, then have <br>knee problems later on (like me!).  I don't know exactly what SI Unit <br>"nineteen to the dozen" is :-) but for most people a cadence of <br>somewhere around 80rpm is about right.  Just count how many times your <br>right foot reaches the 6 o'clock position in 15 seconds, multiply by 4 <br>and you have a rough cadence.  If you're not used to pedalling that <br>fast,it does feel strange at first but stick with it.  It's a lot more <br>efficient.  I do have cadence sensors on my bikes now, and find it very <br>useful in keeping the revs up.<br><br>> Well anyway, thanks for all the advice, and I've just done something <br>> silly.  I've ordered a 58 cm frame (please tell me *now* if this is too <br>> small for my 6'3" person, before the bank transfer goes tomorrow) Surly <br>> Long Haul Trucker.<br><br>Personally, I would say this is too small!  My road bike frame is 24" <br>(around 61cm) and I'm 6ft tall.  Oh, "tomorrow" is no today :-(<br><br>-- <br>Paul Boyd<br><a href="http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk</a>/<br>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:01:15 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: A Quick Thanks .. and a Moment of Madness ...]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA["aigle_de_la_route" <SPAMaigle_de_la_routeSPAM@<a href="http://yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>> wrote in message <br>news:SPAMaigle_de_la_routeSPAM-15240A.00462705092008@news.free.fr...<br><br>> So is my 21" frame too small ?<br><br>If it were a road bike frame, I'd definitely say yes, if it's MTB probably <br>not. But the relevant bit for your legs, which is the distance between the <br>pedals and the saddle, should be ok, it'll just need a long seatpost.<br><br>(small frame then means handlebars closer to you and possibly lower down, <br>which you might not like.<br><br>> Well anyway, thanks for all the advice, and I've just done something<br>> silly.  I've ordered a 58 cm frame (please tell me *now* if this is too<br>> small for my 6'3" person, before the bank transfer goes tomorrow) Surly<br>> Long Haul Trucker.<br><br>Toss up between 58 and 60 - 60 might well be more suited to you. I'd <br>probably go for the 58 - I'm 6'2", but like a slightly smaller frame than <br>others. But you'll get away with the 58.<br><br>cheers,<br>clive <br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:02:42 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: A Quick Thanks .. and a Moment of Madness ...]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[aigle_de_la_route wrote:<br>> ... well, I went out today for a 14 mile journey, which normally,<br>> should have had the ol' knee complaining.  But I tried to stay in a<br>> lower gear than normal, despite feeling like a bit of a dick, with my<br>> legs spinning around nineteen to the dozen.<br>><br>> Anyway, the result is that for whatever reason, I have no pain in my<br>> left leg.  This surprises me as I've always used high gears when<br>> cycling, but then maybe I'm just getting old.<br>><br>> What I do have, however, is a pain in my right leg now.  Right at the<br>> 'crease' between the lower belly, and the upper thigh.  It feels<br>> like.. well, like a 'cramped' (as distinct from 'cramp') pain.<br>><br>> So is my 21" frame too small ?<br>><br>> Well anyway, thanks for all the advice, and I've just done something<br>> silly.  I've ordered a 58 cm frame (please tell me *now* if this is<br>> too small for my 6'3" person, before the bank transfer goes tomorrow)<br>> Surly Long Haul Trucker.<br>><br>> I cannot _wait_.<br><br>If 58 cm is suitable for a 6'3" person then I have to wonder who the 60 and <br>62cm sizes are intended for.<br><br>However, it should still be possible to get reasonable saddle and bar <br>positions, so you won't have to be too cramped.<br><br>I notice the Surly Long Haul Trucker is often fitted with a steeply rising <br>handlebar stem.  Funny name for a sensible bike!<br><br>~PB <br><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:07:29 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Wheel-Rim Sizing]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>I'm confused about how rims are referred to. Sometimes it says something <br>like 559x17 which I can understand, the size of the inner rim is 17mm. <br>Other times it says 26x1.50 or 26x1.75 which seems seems more like the <br>imperial sizing for tyres. I have one wheel that has 26x1.50 written on <br>the rim; its outer rim is about 20mm. Sometimes thinner 559x17 wheels <br>seem to be referred to as 26x1.75. I don't get it.<br><br>Anthony.<br>
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	<description><![CDATA[I have read today that the organisers of the Tour of Britain have not<br>only invited Rock Racing to the party but have not taken the precaution<br>of advising that team's most tainted riders from keeping away from the<br>race.<br><br>Am I being particularly extreme in no longer wishing to be a volunteer<br>marshal at the race?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Luke<br><br>-- <br>Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in<br>exile in Lancashire <<a href="http://www.shrimper.org.uk" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.shrimper.org.uk</a>><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:05:51 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Cumberland Challenge]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a route, what a day.  In the first 30 miles we got rain, wet<br>roads covered in mud and cowpoo, dark dank descents down sunken, tree<br>lined roads requiring the maximum of concentration and usually<br>followed by sharp bends into yet another short leg searing climb.  It<br>was very difficult to ride in groups and hard to find any rhythm at<br>all.  Relief came in the form of Hartside, more akin to the longer<br>climbs I'm used to in Scotland, which seemed really easy after all<br>those muddy hills.  The cobbles at Alston gave the event an even more<br>authentic ‘Paris-Roubaix’ feel then yet another lumpy road took us to<br>back to Alston via Garrigill.  At last the sun came out and for a<br>short while we had dry roads.  The good fast road north from Alston<br>allowed groups to form and speed to pick up.  Back at Brampton the<br>feed & checkpoint was held right in the town centre and this gave a<br>real buzz to the event with all the Sunday drinkers and smokers<br>outside the pubs no doubt wondering what on earth was going on.  Then<br>it was north again towards Scotland as we plunged into more miles of<br>narrow muddy lanes.  It didn’t go unnoticed by me that one of the<br>hardest climbs of the afternoon (Kershope Bridge to Hillend) was on<br>the 1.8 miles of the route that was actually in Scotland. Thanks for<br>that, Scotland.  Now it was raining with a vengeance and the hills<br>seemed to go on forever.  The last feed at 88 miles was a welcome<br>relief even though the flapjack had gone a bit soggy.  The climbing<br>eased in the final miles, I got into a good, fast, very wet, and muddy<br>group, and we all staggered into the event HQ, tired, and very pleased<br>to finish with a job well done.  The organisation and event HQ were<br>spot on.  Chapeaux to all the marshals and organisers who stood for<br>hours in the rain; they all deserve certificates and congratulations,<br>just as much as the riders.  I felt I did OK coming 309th out of 553<br>overall and 11th out of 30 in the 60+ age group.  The only real<br>disappointment was that my lovely new bike got very dirty; I suppose<br>it had to happen sometime.  If you're looking for a challenge next<br>year  'The Cumberland Challenge' is the one for you, but don’t treat<br>it lightly; the 56 DNFs show what a tough, demanding sportive it is.<br>
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	<description><![CDATA[What we did on our holidays...<br><br><a href="http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/sohi1.htm" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/sohi1.htm</a><br><br>Might add an equipment supplement at some point, as we changed kit to be<br>more camping-centric than previous tours, but tent and stove sad cases<br>like me excepted it's all up.<br><br>Pete.<br>-- <br>Peter Clinch                    Medical Physics IT Officer<br>Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637   Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital<br>Fax 44 1382 640177              Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK<br>net p.j.clinch@<a href="http://dundee.ac.uk" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">dundee.ac.uk</a>     <a href="http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch</a>/<br>
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