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Author: ShielaS
Date: Feb 1, 2008 04:22

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/suggest.html

Probably won't do any good , but better than sitting back and saying nothing
perhaps?

Shiela S
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: Niel J Humphreys
Date: Feb 1, 2008 04:29

"ShielaS" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fnv2uo$msi$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/suggest.html
>
> Probably won't do any good , but better than sitting back and saying
> nothing perhaps?

Just sent:

I have to say whatever idiot dreamed up this new feedback system, especially
preventing sellers from leaving anything other than positive feedback, needs
firing with immediate effect. You have no doubt had or read similar
sentiments from other sellers so I won't go on about it. Suffice to say that
if Ebay were not in such a strong position & had a viable competitor I'd be
jumping ship with my business based on this lunacy.

It leaves us wide open to feedback blackmail from buyers and no way or
warning other sellers about rogue non paying bidders. I know Ebay are saying
they will pay more attention to these things but let's face it, that's
highly unlikely to happen to any great effect.

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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: ShielaS
Date: Feb 1, 2008 04:35

"Niel J Humphreys" sznzozwzdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in
message news:F8idnbJBKOxOjT7anZ2dnUVZ8sKlnZ2d@pipex.net...
> "ShielaS" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fnv2uo$msi$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/suggest.html
>>
>> Probably won't do any good , but better than sitting back and saying
>> nothing perhaps?
>
> Just sent:
>
> I have to say whatever idiot dreamed up this new feedback system,
> especially preventing sellers from leaving anything other than positive
> feedback, needs firing with immediate effect. You have no doubt had or
> read similar sentiments from other sellers so I won't go on about it.
> Suffice to say that if Ebay were not in such a strong position & had a
> viable competitor I'd be jumping ship with my business based on this
> lunacy.
>
> It leaves us wide open to feedback blackmail from buyers and no way or ...
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: michael adams
Date: Feb 1, 2008 04:56

"Niel J Humphreys" sznzozwzdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in message
news:F8idnbJBKOxOjT7anZ2dnUVZ8sKlnZ2d@pipex.net...
> "ShielaS" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fnv2uo$msi$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/suggest.html
>>
>> Probably won't do any good , but better than sitting back and saying
>> nothing perhaps?
>
> Just sent:
>
> I have to say whatever idiot dreamed up this new feedback system, especially
> preventing sellers from leaving anything other than positive feedback, needs
> firing with immediate effect. You have no doubt had or read similar
> sentiments from other sellers so I won't go on about it. Suffice to say that
> if Ebay were not in such a strong position & had a viable competitor I'd be
> jumping ship with my business based on this lunacy.
>
> It leaves us wide open to feedback blackmail from buyers and no way or
> warning other sellers about rogue non paying bidders. ...
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: ShielaS
Date: Feb 1, 2008 05:10

"michael adams" onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
news:60gj6vF1qpcerU1@mid.individual.net...
> In theory at least, for buyers using Paypal, eBay could log late and non
> payers
> automatically, and rate buyers accordingly with sellers not having to
> intevene
> at all.
>
> For buyers who chose not to use Paypal they would be dependant on sellers
> informing ebay that they'd paid, and when. Which might be a further
> incentive
> for buyers to use Paypal.
>

But a lot of our items are bulky, and quite expensive, so we don't offer
Paypal and say "cash on collection" or "cheque, wait a week to clear"
If we had to offer paypal, fees would be too costly, plus we wouldnt have
proof of delivery if there were to be a paypal dispute.

Shiela S
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Date: Feb 1, 2008 07:02

"ShielaS" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fnv2uo$msi$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/suggest.html
>
> Probably won't do any good , but better than sitting back and saying
nothing
> perhaps?
>
> Shiela S

What is the new rule, you fail to say..... ?? Do you have more information
please?

Martin
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: michael adams
Date: Feb 1, 2008 07:18

"ShielaS" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "michael adams" onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> news:60gj6vF1qpcerU1@mid.individual.net...
>> In theory at least, for buyers using Paypal, eBay could log late and non
>> payers
>> automatically, and rate buyers accordingly with sellers not having to
>> intevene
>> at all.
>>
>> For buyers who chose not to use Paypal they would be dependant on sellers
>> informing ebay that they'd paid, and when. Which might be a further
>> incentive
>> for buyers to use Paypal.
>>
>
> But a lot of our items are bulky, and quite expensive, so we don't offer
> Paypal and say "cash on collection" or "cheque, wait a week to clear"
> If we had to offer paypal, fees would be too costly, plus we wouldnt have ...
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: Kevin F Stubbs
Date: Feb 1, 2008 07:28

> All I'm saying is that as Paypal and Ebay are linked it wouldn't be that
> difficult for eBay to generate automatic buyer ratings for the majority
> of buyers who do use it.
>
That sort of data exchange/usage would probably result in them falling
foul of the Data Protection Act in a big way. So I doubt they could do
it anytime soon. Just because eBay own PayPal, it doesn't give them an
automatic right to use data held by PayPal especially when it is being
used to say how trustworthy/credit worthy their users are.

Cheers

Kevin
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: michael adams
Date: Feb 1, 2008 07:47

"Kevin F Stubbs" virgin.net> wrote in message
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>> All I'm saying is that as Paypal and Ebay are linked it wouldn't be that
>> difficult for eBay to generate automatic buyer ratings for the majority
>> of buyers who do use it.
>>
> That sort of data exchange/usage would probably result in them falling
> foul of the Data Protection Act in a big way. So I doubt they could do
> it anytime soon. Just because eBay own PayPal, it doesn't give them an
> automatic right to use data held by PayPal especially when it is being
> used to say how trustworthy/credit worthy their users are.
>
> Cheers
>
> Kevin

Good point. However a quick look at the relevant web page seems to indicate
that the present feedback system falls foul of it as well

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_2#pt1-l1g1
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Re: If you want to complain about new feedback rules!         


Author: Roland Perry
Date: Feb 1, 2008 08:16

In message <60gt8gF1qjjfaU1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:47:41 on Fri, 1
Feb 2008, michael adams onetel.net.uk> remarked:
>Basically eBay seem to breaching the Act in including members opinions
>of one another on the feedback pages.

There is probably something in the terms and conditions about you
consenting to that.
--
Roland Perry
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