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Group: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho.rec.arts.tv · Group Profile
Author: The Doctor
Date: Aug 5, 2008 17:46

In article comcast.com>,
Arthur Lipscomb alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>"The Doctor" wrote in message
>news:g79n8u$l4$3@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>> In article <48980BBC.CFF50546@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <4896B8B6.FB5C6A67@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
>>>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark Nobles" comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:020820082209268224%%cmn-nospam@comcast.net...
>>>>>>> erilar chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Davro's grandiose plan to destroy reality by canceling out the
>>>>>>>>> electrical energy that holds matter together. However, with
>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>> but the Daleks gone, where will the Daleks obtain the energy and
>>>>>>>>> minerals needed to sustain themselves?
>>>>>>>> Daleks plan ahead less than they think they do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really, truly hope that this is the last time we will ever see
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Daleks. Now they may have once been the enemy against whom the
>>>>>>> Doctor
>>>>>>> and his children abandoned all hope of resistance, but I never
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> them that impressive, and now DoctorDonna has made a joke of them.
>>>>>>> Their time has passed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Martha's Ostrohogan Key, which would destroy the Earth with 25
>>>>>>>>> nukes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why haven't they learned that:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you
>>>>>>> *keep*
>>>>>>> it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (The other Dr., Strangelove)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be more worried someone will find out about and either blackmail
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> world or intentionally use it to wipe out the Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Doctor returning Rose and her Mom to Bad Wolf Bay in the
>>>>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>>>>> universe. He also leaves Doctor 2 there to love Rose. Doctor
>>>>>>>>> 2's
>>>>>>>>> genocidal attitude makes him too dangerous to leave to his own
>>>devices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has long been part of the Doctor's back story that he had
>>>>>>> exterminated the Daleks in the Time War, along with the rest of the
>>>>>>> Time Lords. I don't know if that makes it easier or harder to do it
>>>>>>> again - maybe that's why there had to be two Doctors so they could
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> of two minds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that reference Davros made about recognizing Sarah was from when
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Timelords sent the Doctor back to Skaro in the first place to mess
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> their creation. That could be seen as the first salvo in the time
>>>>>> war.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Timelords sent the wrong guy. The Doctor couldn't bring himself to
>>>>>exterminate the Daleks! Why didn't the Timelords send someone more
>>>>>ruthless?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because the Doctor was the Dalek expert.
>>>
>>>Okay, Timelords, send with the Doctor a "political officer" to enforce
>>>the decree
>>>that the Daleks be killed in their cradles! Or send someone to kill
>>>Davros in his
>>>cradle! Or Timescoop Davros away from Skaros as a child!
>>>
>>
>> So ethically, why did this not happen?
>> --
>
>The Doctor has said several times the war was time locked. As far as I'm
>aware, when the doctor first encountered the Daleks he (and presumably the
>other Timelords) had never heard of them before. When the time lords
>finally sent the Doctor to Skaro, they were unaware of Davros. The Doctor
>did try to warn/reason with Davros but once he knew the true horror of his
>creation that just made him more eager to create them. Later during the
>time war there were probably plenty of ideas as to how to retroactively stop
>Davros and the creation of the Daleks but by then the timeline had been
>locked in place.
>

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