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Author: NorcotNorcot
Date: Dec 18, 2006 22:28
"Johnny" wrote in message > I don't know how you
change the habits we have. A recent parcel of land
> near our downtown core was recently alotted to 'public housing'.
> Initially a generous percentage were to be subsidised for the
> disenfranchised. But it's only just getting developed now after years of
> development and I believe most of the subsidised units have been squeezed
> out of the plan in favour of high profit units. It's the prime location
> you see. Just too tempting to screw-over those unable to fight back.
>
> Johnny-no-answers
That is exactly what has happened here in Oakham. The council insisted on a
%% of affordable housing or afine. The developers paid the fine but more than
made up for it with the cost of the expensive properties they put up. The
council are too naive - or maybe too involved.
Rex
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Author: a l l ya l l y
Date: Dec 18, 2006 17:29
If you happen to have access to BBC Radio Cumbria - well, gosh, everyone has
these days through the magic of the internet - have a wee listen on
Wednesday morning about 7.45am when Belfagan will be dancing on the radio
for your pleasure and delight.
Apparently they're doing a "12 Days of Christmas" feature this week, and
each morning a different reporter has had the job of finding the Partridge
in the Pear Tree, or the Seven Swans a-Swimming or whatever. When one
reporter was given the task of finding Nine Ladies Dancing, the answer was
obvious, and she came along to Belfagan's practice this evening and recorded
much rhythmic stamping and clomping in clogs and jingling bells to the
accompaniment of Bridget and me on accordion and sax. I don't know how long
the programme will be, but it should be a laugh! Listen in if you dare!
I gather it's repeated about 6.10pm on Thursday if you miss it on Wednesday.
ally
www.belfagan.org.uk
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Author: a l l ya l l y
Date: Dec 18, 2006 17:20
>>>> Do you visit it?
>>
>>>Of course!
>>
>> Gotcha! ;-)
>> As I was saying, "profligate waste of resources"...
>
> No I'm not. I was going to the cemetary anyway. You saying we can't go
> visit our dead relatives?
>
If I were so inclined - i.e., if I agreed with Sleepy, which I don't - I'd
come up with counter-arguments to this, such as, "what's the point of
visiting dead people? It's not as though they derive any benefit from your
visit so why bother?" and so on. But I don't agree with him.
Not that I bother visiting my dead relatives. I prefer to think of them the
way they were when they were alive.
ally
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Author: a l l ya l l y
Date: Dec 18, 2006 17:18
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> On Dec 18, 5:27 pm, "a l l y" situponDOGGIEseats.co.uk> wrote:>
>>> On Dec 18, 1:32 pm, Johnny wrote:
>>>>> Do you visit it?
>>
>>>>Of course!
>>
>>> Gotcha! ;-)
>>> As I was saying, "profligate waste of resources"...
>>
>>So you're suggesting he shouldn't go on holiday, now?
>
> _He_ shouldn't, no. He should stay home for a couple of days; ...
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Author: sleepalotsleepalot
Date: Dec 18, 2006 13:55
On Dec 18, 7:02 pm, "Norcot" spam.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh you will have Sleepy after you! Criminalising people before they have
> actually committed a crime! I bet he can find a thousand Google references
> to rebut you.
Lol! What are you saying, Rex? ;-)
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Author: sleepalotsleepalot
Date: Dec 18, 2006 13:53
On Dec 18, 6:48 pm, Johnny wrote:
> It's like saying we try to prevent disease just because we have a health
> system. But we don't. We cure disease after you get sick.
Except of course that we have immunisation programs, clean
water supplies, sewerage, rubbish collection, urban renewal
programs, income support and child benefits, post-natal care,
Clean Air act,...
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Author: sleepalotsleepalot
Date: Dec 18, 2006 13:38
On Dec 18, 7:39 pm, Jpinny hotmail.com> wrote:> sleepalot wrote:
>> On Dec 15, 1:07 pm, "The Traveller" wrote:
>>> Pretty horrible, the murdered prostitutes. Anyone have any meaning
>>> on where they were eventually murdered.
>
>>> Edith.
>
>
>> I think it's especially kind of those nice people at the BBC
>> to provide the full name, and almost full address, and a photo
>> of the house, of a man who has yet to be charged with any
>> offence.
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Author: JohnnyJohnny
Date: Dec 18, 2006 12:57
>> So you wanted to stir it up, eh? I don't really accept that they've
>> tried to do something about the causes. They haven't done anything
>> seriously. The
>> whole system is devoted to catching and punishing criminals after the
>> fact.
>> Try going to your police and saying 'My neighbour's kid needs help
>> or I'm sure he's going to commit a viloent crime.' and observe the
>> inaction that causes.
>
>
> Oh you will have Sleepy after you! Criminalising people before they
> have actually committed a crime! I bet he can find a thousand Google
> references to rebut you.
> On the other hand, do you have policemen with the imagination to see
> what you are saying?
>
> Rex.
Well, I didn't mean criminalizing. Just getting some preventative
attention before a crime was committed.
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Author: NorcotNorcot
Date: Dec 18, 2006 11:02
"Johnny" wrote in message
>
> So you wanted to stir it up, eh? I don't really accept that they've tried
> to do something about the causes. They haven't done anything seriously.
> The
> whole system is devoted to catching and punishing criminals after the
> fact.
> Try going to your police and saying 'My neighbour's kid needs help or I'm
> sure he's going to commit a viloent crime.' and observe the inaction that
> causes.
Oh you will have Sleepy after you! Criminalising people before they have
actually committed a crime! I bet he can find a thousand Google references
to rebut you.
On the other hand, do you have policemen with the imagination to see what
you are saying?
Rex.
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Author: JohnnyJohnny
Date: Dec 18, 2006 10:57
>> Some professionals think they do.
>
> I note you didn't make a list.
It's like everything else. It's out there to be read.
Sorry for the big snip but I don't have a lot of time...
> I say WE should be damned careful about telling THEM how to
> live THEIR lives.
That's what Americans driving polluting giant cars say. Damn the
environment and the health of other people. Individual rights are supreme!
Yeah. Right.
>> Johnny-thinks-the-status-quo-can-always-be-improved-upon
>
> Yes, maybe it can, but fascist dictatorships are not an improvement.
Where'd you get fascist dictatorships out of that?
Johnny-only-said-we-can-do-better
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