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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Humbug
Date: Jan 20, 2008 16:00

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000, Invisible Man
invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>Sadly a lot of regulations have been made necessary because some people
>believe they can act as irresponsibly as they like.

Exactly so.
>IMHO people who deliberately endanger others should be banned at least.
>A misjudgement is one thing. Deliberately doing something that might
>endanger others is another. The OP should be ashamed of him/herself.

The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
to anyone else in that location at that time.

He fell victim to a rule which says that doing something might
possibly be dangerous.

That rule is useful when an inconsiderate person does something which
actually *is* dangerous, but is only really effective when they are
caught.

More commonly, people who take care *not* to be dangerous are
prosecuted under a regulation which is aimed at those who really are
dangerous.

The officer got an easy result.
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Periander
Date: Jan 21, 2008 00:20

Humbug tofee.net> wrote in news:gqm7p31j9lr5p4jg06pijjojp07nnnev3e@
4ax.com:
>
> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
> to anyone else in that location at that time.

Whereas he had no idea of how many people would turn up at the crossing
whilst he was in the shop collecting his TV, or if he would be delayed
whilst picking up his TV from the shop or any number of variable. Parking
just a few extra yards away would have caused next to no additional
inconvenience to him and yet kept his safe from points.

--
Regards or otherwise,

Periander
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Roland Perry
Date: Jan 21, 2008 00:55

In message 80.5.182.99>, at 08:20:05 on
Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Periander <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> remarked:
>Humbug tofee.net> wrote in news:gqm7p31j9lr5p4jg06pijjojp07nnnev3e@
>4ax.com:
>
>> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
>> to anyone else in that location at that time.
>
>Whereas he had no idea of how many people would turn up at the crossing
>whilst he was in the shop collecting his TV, or if he would be delayed
>whilst picking up his TV from the shop or any number of variable. Parking
>just a few extra yards away would have caused next to no additional
>inconvenience to him and yet kept his safe from points.
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: nemo2
Date: Jan 21, 2008 11:55

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:00:12 +0000, Humbug tofee.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000, Invisible Man
>invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Sadly a lot of regulations have been made necessary because some people
>>believe they can act as irresponsibly...
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Alex Heney
Date: Jan 21, 2008 14:05

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:00:12 +0000, Humbug tofee.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000, Invisible Man
>invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Sadly a lot of regulations have been made necessary because some people
>>believe they can act as irresponsibly as they like.
>
>Exactly so.
>
>>IMHO people who deliberately endanger others should be banned at least.
>>A misjudgement is one thing. Deliberately doing something that might
>>endanger others is another. The OP should be ashamed of him/herself.
>
>The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
>to anyone else in that location at that time.

How on earth could he *possibly* have been "aware" of that?
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Alex Heney
Date: Jan 21, 2008 14:10

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:55:04 +0000, Roland Perry perry.co.uk>
wrote:
>In message 80.5.182.99>, at 08:20:05 on
>Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Periander <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> remarked:
>>Humbug tofee.net> wrote in news:gqm7p31j9lr5p4jg06pijjojp07nnnev3e@...
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Yellow
Date: Jan 21, 2008 14:20

Roland Perry [roland@perry.co.uk] said:
> In message 80.5.182.99>, at 08:20:05 on
> Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Periander <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> remarked:
>>Humbug tofee.net> wrote in news:gqm7p31j9lr5p4jg06pijjojp07nnnev3e@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
>>> to anyone else in that location at that time.
>>
>>Whereas he had no idea of how many people would turn up at the crossing
>>whilst he was in the shop collecting his TV, or if he would be delayed
>>whilst picking up his TV from the shop or any number of variable. Parking
>>just a few extra yards away would have caused next to no additional
>>inconvenience to him and yet kept his safe from points.
>
> It's not always the case that there...
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Yellow
Date: Jan 21, 2008 14:15

Humbug [humbug@tofee.net] said:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000, Invisible Man
> invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Sadly a lot of regulations have been made necessary because some people
>>believe they can act as irresponsibly as they like.
>
> Exactly so.
>
>>IMHO people who deliberately endanger others should be banned at least.
>>A misjudgement is one thing. Deliberately doing something that might
>>endanger others is another. The OP should be ashamed of him/herself.
>
> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
> to anyone else in that location at that time.

Maybe when he parked, in his opinion, it was safe. But what if his
opinion was wrong? And if it was correct, what if the situation changed
20 seconds after he left his car?

This is one of those rules that is there for a very good reason.
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Author: Invisible Man
Date: Jan 22, 2008 01:10

Yellow wrote:
> Humbug [humbug@tofee.net] said:
>> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:30:08 +0000, Invisible Man
>> invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly a lot of regulations have been made necessary because some people
>>> believe they can act as irresponsibly as they like.
>> Exactly so.
>>
>>> IMHO people who deliberately endanger others should be banned at least.
>>> A misjudgement is one thing. Deliberately doing something that might
>>> endanger others is another. The OP should be ashamed of him/herself.
>> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
>> to anyone else in that location at that time.
>
> Maybe when he parked, in his opinion, it was safe. But what if his
> opinion was wrong? And if it was correct, what if the situation changed
> 20 seconds after he left his car?
>
> This is one of those rules that is there for a very good reason. ...
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Re: Fixed Penalty - incorrect details         


Date: Jan 22, 2008 02:55

Roland Perry wrote:
> In message 80.5.182.99>, at 08:20:05 on
> Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Periander <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> remarked:
>> Humbug tofee.net> wrote in
>> news:gqm7p31j9lr5p4jg06pijjojp07nnnev3e@
>> 4ax.com:
>>
>>> The OP was well aware that he would not cause danger or inconvenience
>>> to anyone else in that location at that time.
>>
>> Whereas he had no idea of how many people would turn up at the crossing
>> whilst he was in the shop collecting his TV, or if he would be delayed
>> whilst picking up his TV from the shop or any number of variable. Parking
>> just a few extra yards away would have caused next to no additional
>> inconvenience to him and yet kept his safe from points.
>
> It's not always the case that there is somewhere else nearby. And if he
> knows the area it's quite easy to predict what might happen in the next
> ten minutes. A friend once got a ticket for parking a few minutes in a
> bus stop in the High Street on a Sunday morning. It was extremely ...
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