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Author: RogerRoger Date: Jan 6, 2008 21:01
The message <4f5d01f33adave@ davenoise.co.uk>
from "Dave Plowman (News)" davenoise.co.uk> contains these words:
>> Blimey - 'copacetic' - there's my new word for the day. Apparently it's
>> been used just once before in the archived history of this newsgroup -
>> by Mr Mike Ring in 2001.
> And the UK dictionary and spellchecker I have on this machine doesn't
> recognise it...
My 'dead tree' (Collins) dictionary has it and claims it is US and
Canadian slang. The title page has disappeared but I think this one was
from some time in the 80s.
--
Roger Chapman
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Author: John RummJohn Rumm Date: Jan 6, 2008 21:08
Roger wrote:
> The message <4f5d01f33adave@ davenoise.co.uk>
> from "Dave Plowman (News)" davenoise.co.uk> contains these words:
> >>> Blimey - 'copacetic' - there's my new word for the day. Apparently it's
>>> been used just once before in the archived history of this newsgroup -
>>> by Mr Mike Ring in 2001.
>
>> And the UK dictionary and spellchecker I have on this machine doesn't
>> recognise it...
>
>
> My 'dead tree' (Collins) dictionary has it and claims it is US and
> Canadian slang. The title page has disappeared but I think this one was
> from some time in the 80s.
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Author: RogerRoger Date: Jan 6, 2008 22:43
>> My 'dead tree' (Collins) dictionary has it and claims it is US and
>> Canadian slang. The title page has disappeared but I think this one was
>> from some time in the 80s.
> or older:
Sorry for the ambiguity. The 80s date related to my dictionary which in
turn merely claims 20th century and of unknown origin.
--
Roger Chapman
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Author: Derek GeldardDerek Geldard Date: Jan 6, 2008 23:41
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:14:35 GMT, Lobster
hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I do all my work with OpenOffice 2.3 (*), and before that with StarOffice 7 (I
>> think). I'm the only non-Windows person in my office. None of them have ever
>> noticed. None of them have ever complained about being unable to open my
>> documents. I have never been unable to open their documents. All is copacetic.
>
>Blimey - 'copacetic' - there's my new word for the day. Apparently it's
>been used just once before in the archived history of this newsgroup -
>by Mr Mike Ring in 2001.
I worked with Micheal O' Ringo (as we called him) in 1969.
Bear in mind he'd trained to be a Vicar, and "Copacetic" seems to be a
descendant of the Hebrew phrase "hakol beseder".
Or as the Na^^^ Germans would have it "Alles in ordnung"
DG
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Author: Derek GeldardDerek Geldard Date: Jan 7, 2008 00:48
>> What happens if you need to share files (or even view them?) with any of
>> the other 99%% of the world who uses MS Office, for example? Presumably
>> any of these OS are a non-starter, surely?
>
>There's an opensource product called OpenOffice which can read/write
>Microsoft office documents, and there are commercial versions of it
>such as StarOffice (which it originally came from) from Sun.
A private user doesn't usually benefit from the commercial versions,
only one or two obscure copyright features (filters and fonts IIRC)
have been included out.
>This
>runs on all the popular unixs, Linux, and Windows. I put StarOffice
>on my Mum's Windows PC a couple of years ago, and although she's only
>a novice PC user, I don't think she has any idea she's not running
>Microsoft Office (except things like macro viruses don't work on her
>system when they do on all her colleagues':-).
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Date: Jan 7, 2008 01:42
Lobster hotmail.com> wrote:
> What happens if you need to share files (or even view them?) with any of
> the other 99%% of the world who uses MS Office, for example? Presumably
> any of these OS are a non-starter, surely?
Umm no, you run OpenOffice which is actually more compatible with
Word/Excel/PowerPoint than is the current version of Microsoft Office
with the latest Service Pack. You also have some security in knowing
that the OpenOffice developers do a lot of testing, frequent patch
releases to fix problems reported by users, and don't just maintain, but
continuously expand backwards compatability. MS OTOH have just removed
all backwards compatability, so if you want to open an old document
you're stuffed.
Of course since OpenOffice is cross platform you can ditch MS Office and
run OO instead even under Windows. I you have a Mac then NeoOffice is
the Mac port of OO. I've used it for a couple of years, and Windows/MS
Office using clients haven't even noticed that their documents are
received, edited and sent back using a different package to the one they
expect.
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Date: Jan 7, 2008 01:42
The Medway Handyman nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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> Am I better off leaving them well alone?
In brief, yes.
If you want a good computer and you don't understand computers much, go
and buy an iMac. It will do most of what you want straight out of the
box. If you want to do MS Office stuff install Neo Office which is free.
Dell also fare badly in terms of delivery, reliability and availability
(that last one as you discovered).
http://preview.tinyurl.com/33p2zm
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Author: Nige DantonNige Danton Date: Jan 7, 2008 01:59
> If you want a good computer and you don't understand computers much, go
> and buy an iMac. It will do most of what you want straight out of the
> box. If you want to do MS Office stuff install Neo Office which is free.
Yep. I switched to Mac's 4 years ago after 15 odd years of PC's. Best
thing I ever did. Miles better.
--
Nige Danton
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Author: John StumblesJohn Stumbles Date: Jan 7, 2008 02:04
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:46:42 +0000, Andy Hall wrote:
> Visions of John with his underpants on the outside of his trousers
> going around all the PC stores and installing Linux on all of their
> display systems - saving them from themselves. :-)
Heh heh! it did occur to me .... maybe just to leave knoppix liveCDs in
their disc trays.
> Tried Gnome? This seems to be a bit lighter weight.
Yes and chucked it out. If I wanted lighter weight at all costs I'd learn
to use xfce or suchlike. I wanted usability: I've spent too long learning
the Windoze[1] way of doing things to want to learn a different one[2] and
kde wasn't so heavyweight that it was a showstopper.
[1] windoze classic: when I was thrown into a pit of XP machines the first
thing I did was customise them to the classic 9X/NT/XP look'n'feel. Never
did like teletubbies :-)
[2] unless I can see that it's really worth the effort.
--
John Stumbles
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Author: Colin WilsonColin Wilson Date: Jan 7, 2008 02:05
> Dell also fare badly in terms of delivery, reliability and availability
Availability is subject to outside forces beyond their control, but my
experience with delivery and reliability is 100%% perfect.
Not only me, but everyone else I know who's bought a Dell machine
(some have bought several), which number perhaps another 6 or 7 people
in our office alone, have had similar experiences - not a faulty
machine amongst any of them in the last 3 years.
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