Are there people/organisations that will carry out
a scientific audit on a house,
measuring where heat is lost, etc?

Timothy Murphy eircom.net> wrote:

Yes.

How deep are your pockets?

In message <1igs0bi.12v38qr1kcwtr8N%%%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk> wrote

Get the experts in to do a Home Information Pack Survey

On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:51:21 +0100, Alan amac.f2s.com>
wrote:

In article 4ax.com>,
Mogga nospamohpleasenospammogga.com> writes:

Yes, I heard that on the Radio today. Needs doing every
time the tenent changes, but not if they just renew, if
I heard it correctly.

On Sun, 11 May 2008 20:05:04 +0100 someone who may be Mogga
nospamohpleasenospammogga.com> wrote this:-

Presumably the same sort of survey as done when selling a house.
Nothing scientific about that.

This can be done by anyone with a calculator, as it has been dumbed
down to be simple enough for the sort of people who are involved in
the house selling business to do.

However, that wasn't good enough for the Labour Party, as DIY
wouldn't involve the sort of money making scam they love. Therefore
the simple procedure has to be done by someone who has paid to go on
a course to make them an "expert", probably pays money to keep them
an "expert" and gives the data they gather on your house to the
government for them to lose and misuse.

<http://projects.bre.co.uk/sap2005/> details the methodology. The
reduced data version is acceptable in many cases I believe, that
really is a Mickey Mouse thing.

In message <91nf24l4f0e96t72ulc871tiiscbijo1bp@4ax.com>, David Hansen
spidacom.co.uk> writes

On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:15:25 +0100 someone who may be Tim Lamb
marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote this:-

Presumably the landlord who is carrying out the survey and
government. In the latter case it is claimed that energy efficiency
officers will be able to target their help. Of course that implies
that government helps people, which would be a novel idea but I
doubt they will do much or anything in this case.

Of course this assumes that there is a scheme to get landlords to
have this sort of thing done and the information is abused by being
sent to government as it is in the energy survey scam for houses
being sold. So far nobody has given a URL of such a scheme and I
can't be bothered to look it up.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:15:25 +0100 Tim Lamb wrote :

The theory is the same as the requirement to display car fuel figures. A
tenant goes into a letting agency, narrows his choice down to two and
then sees from the EPCs that one has projected energy costs that are
twice that of the other. So he chooses the one that with the lower
figures. After a bit the landlord of the high-cost unlettable flat
decides to do something and then gets it reassessed.

Do I see this happening in real life? All the evidence to date seems to
be that most people don't take any notice of HIPs.

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