>> Has the advantage of can be used to sterilise the soil so effective
>> against animal pests as well as plant pests.
>>
>> Owain

>
> And animal non-pests :-(

> Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

>> Bloody weeds... everywhere!
>> I have looked around the interweb...
>> Best DIY solutions for spray-applied stuff that will knock-em for 6
>> is what I'm after.
>>
>> Some suggest brown vinegar (hot)
>> Others say Jays-fluid (if sprayed should it be diluted and to what
>> ratio?)
>> Steam Cleaners (don't have one and would be a great expense for
>> beating up a few weeds)
>>
>> Dandelions are the worst..
>> (helped by a 6 year old that likes to tell the time by Dandelion clock)
>>

>
> I'd go for Glyphosate (Roundup) for the dandelions; if a small area
> and/or desire to avoid surrounding grass and plants, then paint on with
> a one inch paintbrush. Likewise for buttercups. For painting on, I'd mix ...

> The very worst garden weed just *has* to be Mare's Tail. The root
> systems
> spread far and wide and deep underground and a new plant will grow
> from the
> tiniest root fragment left behind when you dig 'em out. The 'leaves'
> (more
> like fronds) have a waxy coating which resists spray herbicides.
> Once it
> has taken hold there is *no* getting rid of it. Trust me on this.
> My
> garden is full of the bastards. Compared to Mare's Tail, dandelions
> are a
> stroll in the park with fluffy pink cushions to lie about on.
>
> Anyone who comes up with a means of eradicating this weed from my
> garden
> will earn my undying admiration and probably a large quantity of beer. ...

>
> P.S. 100ml of Roundup in the sheds can be a fiver. 5l of Roundup in an
> agricultural supplier is

> Thus spake Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk (0845-86-86-888@cheapest-prices.ever)

>> Bloody weeds... everywhere!
>> I have looked around the interweb...
>> Best DIY solutions for spray-applied stuff that will knock-em for 6 is

>> I'm after.

>

>> Dandelions are the worst..

>
> Ohhhhhh no they're not.
>
> The very worst garden weed just *has* to be Mare's Tail. The root systems
> spread far and wide and deep underground and a new plant will grow from

> tiniest root fragment left behind when you dig 'em out. The 'leaves'

> like fronds) have a waxy coating which resists spray herbicides. Once it ...

> In article <_CKUj.360$DZ6.290@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Mark
> 127.0.0.1> writes

>>
>>fred wrote in message news:Pt4znaCjc1IIFwIF@y.z...

>>>>
>>>>That depends on how selective you are in applying it, the surrounding
>>>>vegetation and what you hope to plant to replace the dandelions .
>>>>

>>> I'd be wary of using it with much hope of selectivity:
>>>
>>> "Sodium Chlorate - a non-selective contact herbicide, killing all green
>>> plant parts and has a soil-sterilant effect. It may persist in soil for
>>> 6 months to 5 years, depending on rate applied, soil type, fertility,
>>> organic matter, moisture, and weather conditions. It is highly toxic to
>>> animals and humans, breaking down red blood cells."

>>
>>
>>That's only relevant if you mix it at full strength and apply it with a
>>watering can drenching everything including the soil, which makes it ideal ...

>
>"fred" wrote in message news:jI$oenC6$AJIFw3s@y.z...

>>>

>> Thanks for the extra info, it seems if used carefully it is not as bad as
>> I thought. I was a bit worried too about leeching and spread into
>> adjoining areas and plan to still keep it off banks above planted borders.

>
>I know someone who used several tubs of sodium chlorate that was mixed to a
>very high concentration (ie just enought water to dissolve the stuff) and
>was able to kill his neighbours conifers without damaging his own copper
>beech trees that stood a few feet away. You need the ground soil to be damp,
>make some holes around the conifer's trunk using 15mm copper and then pour
>in the mixture...

> In article <360Vj.800$DZ6.151@text.news.virginmedia.com>, ARWadworth
> blueyonder.co.uk> writes

>>
>>"fred" wrote in message news:jI$oenC6$AJIFw3s@y.z...

>>>>

>>> Thanks for the extra info, it seems if used carefully it is not as bad
>>> as
>>> I thought. I was a bit worried too about leeching and spread into
>>> adjoining areas and plan to still keep it off banks above planted
>>> borders.

>>
>>I know someone who used several tubs of sodium chlorate that was mixed to
>>a
>>very high concentration (ie just enought water to dissolve the stuff) and
>>was able to kill his neighbours conifers without damaging his own copper
>>beech trees that stood a few feet away. You need the ground soil to be
>>damp,
>>make some holes around the conifer's trunk using 15mm copper and then pour
>>in the mixture. ...

>
>"fred" wrote in message news:WRs1o7A3tJJIFwge@y.z...

>> In article <360Vj.800$DZ6.151@text.news.virginmedia.com>, ARWadworth
>> blueyonder.co.uk> writes

>>>
>>>
>>>I know someone who used several tubs of sodium chlorate that was mixed to
>>>a
>>>very high concentration (ie just enought water to dissolve the stuff) and
>>>was able to kill his neighbours conifers without damaging his own copper
>>>beech trees that stood a few feet away. You need the ground soil to be
>>>damp,
>>>make some holes around the conifer's trunk using 15mm copper and then pour
>>>in the mixture.
>>>

>> That's a surprise, thanks for the info.
>>
>> BTW, was it a feud or a favour? ...

> Ah, best not to know the full story I'm sure