http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/ Posts for uk.current-events.n-ireland Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:17:01 PST http://www.nnseek.com/ http://www.nnseek.com/img/64.png 64 64 NNSeek http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/call_for_an_all_ireland_football_soccer_team_83569939t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/call_for_an_all_ireland_football_soccer_team_83569939t.html @iol.ie>" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:32:01 -0000, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
> hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"WhiteWolf @iol.ie>" wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:11:54 -0000, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
>>> hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"WhiteWolf @iol.ie>" wrote in message
>>>>news:3n1fr2tctsf3b2q5efmlj1memagfimf8f8@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:33:41 -0000, "Westprog"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"William A. T. Clark" nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:clark.31-D5B668.09200023012007@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>>>...
>>>>>>> The rugby team has done this for over 100 years. What's the big
>>>>>>> deal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If Bertie's thinking of having a team that plays in Dublin, has the
>>>>>>Irish
>>>>>>national anthem before matches, and flies the tricolour over the
>>>>>>stadium,
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>is the case with the rugby team, then it's a non-starter. If he wants
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>team
>>>>>>that alternates between Dublin and Belfast, plays both national
>>>>>>anthems
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>none, and uses a non-sectarian flag, he'll need to say that. Which he
>>>>>>never
>>>>>>will, obviously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WestBrit... An All Ireland Soccer/Football team MUST play all major
>>>>> matches in
>>>>> Dublin, under our flag, and under our anthem! And those players must
>>>>> feel
>>>>> pride
>>>>> and joy to do so...
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll take the best from the Norn Iron team that are willing to join
>>>>> the
>>>>> real
>>>>> Irish team and to hell with those who want the Union Flag and English
>>>>> Anthem...
>>>>> They can go and find some third rate England team to play for...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>>Which is exactly and precisely why there will never be an all-Ireland
>>>>Rugby
>>>>team. Ray, you are such a blithering idiot and so sanctimoniously
>>>>sectarian
>>>>and bigoted it is almost unbelievable. I can only assume that you are up
>>>>to
>>>>your silly foolish games again. Why don't you go and join up with
>>>>"hmhawktoo", much more your style.
>>>
>>> Harry... It will be an "All Ireland" team... Representing the MAJORITY
>>> of
>>> the
>>> Island of Ireland... There fore the Irish Anthem is most appropaite as
>>> is
>>> the
>>> Tri-Colour...
>>
>>IF Ireland was a United Country, which it is most definately NOT, then I
>>would agree with you.
>>>
>>> If you've watched Norn-Iron matches in the past Vs someone else... You
>>> see
>>> a
>>> hodge=podge of supporters, half hoisting the "red hand of ulster" flag
>>> and
>>> half
>>> dressed in Green, hoisting the Irish flag...
>>
>>And SO??
>>>
>>> So you see... Not only are you a minority voice in Ireland, but within
>>> the
>>> Six
>>> Counties as well...
>>
>>Total bullshit as per usual.
>>
>>> Now tell me... If an ALL_IRISH team were playing England in a match that
>>> meant
>>> something... you'd not be supporting the all-Irish side?
>>
>>Definitely NOT, under your presumptive rules!
>
> The team is the IRISH footaball team.... We're taking your Nordie rejects
> and if
> they are any good putting them in as second fiddle players to our team...
> Therefore you will have to play by our rules!

Precisely so! And which is precisely "why" you will never have such a
situation under any circumstances. Your arrogance knows no bounds! There
will never be a United Ireland Rugby football team until such times as
Ireland is indeed united, not before! Your ideas are so completely absurd I
can only assume that you are up to your childish mind-games again. You got
into trouble over that before.

--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

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]]> Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:17:01 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/ulster_said_no_82917395t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/ulster_said_no_82917395t.html "Post Post Colonial Boy" email.com> wrote in message
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> There are nine counties in Ulster...only two of them have a majority
> that says 'No'.

True that. I was just going on about what Paisley said, that's all.

I'm an Irishman all the way brother. Don't get me wrong.


JCH

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]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:28:02 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/pup_s_ervine_53_had_died_rip_82917139t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/pup_s_ervine_53_had_died_rip_82917139t.html "Post Post Colonial Boy" email.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:53:47 -0000, "JCH"
> all.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Gombeen Man" eircom.net> wrote in message
> >news:_IUoh.17384$j7.338440@news.indigo.ie...
> >>
> >> "JCH" all.com> wrote
> >>
> >> > Quite frankly, it's such a pity it's not Paisley's death we're
talking
> >> > about
> >> > to be honest.
> >>
> >> Really? Surely THE GOOD REVERERAND IAN was one of THE BEST recruitment
> >> officers THE PROVOS ever had...???
> >
> >LVF and UVF's maybe...
> >
> >
> >Where would THEY be without him??? All
> >> THAT HATRED and VITRIOL...?!?!?!
> >>
> >> Bless.
> >>
> >> One thing going for THE REVERAND at least...
> >>
> >> He didn't put A WOMAN WITH CANCER on a WAITING LIST FOR SEVEN MONTHS...
> >>
> >> Unlike the PRESENT GOVERNMENT of THIS TURD WORLD CESSPIT.
> >
> >are you talking about The Republic or The North?
> >
> >Because "politics" is a non entity in the north of Ireland (I refuse to
> >refer to it as Northern Ireland or Norn Iron or whatever...)
> >
> >Paisley is the chief instigator along with Adams and Blair and co.
They're
> >all in it, its just that people will never wake up to realise that fact.
> >These fucks don't want to govern, all they want is power, and its so
> >blatantly obvious its not even fucking funny for a man Paisley's age.
> >
> >That's what annoys me about the north.
>
> You're wrong about Adams.
>
> PPCB

I've written to Gerry Adams in the past and don't get me wrong here, nice
bloke. But aren't all the fucking lunatics nice to the common man on the
street? Look at Saddam.. he had no problem shaking hands with former US
presidents back in the day, but at the same time had no problem formulating
a plot to kill Bush Snr.

Get what I'm saying?


JCH

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]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:26:57 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/the_little_white_bull_82723859t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/the_little_white_bull_82723859t.html From the film "Tommy The Toreador" (1959)
(Lionel Bart / Michael Pratt / Jimmy Bennett)
Tommy Steele - 1959

Once upon a time there was a little white bull
Very sad, because he was a little white bull
(Little white bull)

All the black bulls called him a coward
Just 'cause he was white
Only black bulls go to the bullring
Only black bulls fight

When he asked his mama if a little white bull
(Little white bull)
Ever had a chance of turning black?

His mama said, you silly little bull
You're a pretty little bull
You're my little bull
So please don't ask me why, little bull
You just ain't black!

But this did not satisfy that little white bull
(Little white bull)
He was an exception to that little white rule
(Little white rule)

Everyday alone in the meadow, he'd find things to charge!!
Till one day he really imagined, that his horns were large!

Bold as brass right then and then, the little white bull
(Little white bull)

Quickly found the nearest road to town
And people said, what a funny little bull
What a fluffy little bull, he's our little bull
He marched along, a proud little bull
And hit the town!

It was the day of the bullfight, all the town were there
Waiting to see the famous matador!
Trumpeters sounded a fanfare, tam-ta-da-dam-tam-taaa!
Out from the throats of the crowd came a mighty roar!!
Into the ring to the shout of a great olé (olé!)
Came the parade, all prepared for a mighty fray
Matadors! and picadors! and toreadors!

And who do you think as well?

Trotting right behind them came the little white bull
(The little white bull)

How they laughed out loud to see the little white bull
(Little white bull)

Trotting 'round the giant arena, with his head up high
Till the matador in the centre caught his tiny eye
Charging right up to him went the little white bull
(Little white bull)

Charging twice and charging once again!

The matador cried, torro little bull!
You're not a little bull, you're a BRAVE little bull!
You're gonna be a great little bull
The best in Spain!

Then the crowd all shouted, torro little bull!
You're not a little bull, you're a BRAVE little bull
You're gonna be a great little bull
The best in Spain!

So if you got a little bull, that's a white little bull
It's quite possible that it might be the bull
That's the best in Spain!!!!

----

Question... What is the lesson being taught in this song?

Ray

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]]> Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:21:26 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/god_said_no_82667795t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/god_said_no_82667795t.html He said it was not for Him to take away, but for me to give up.

I asked God to make my handicapped child whole, and God said, "NO!"
He said, "Her spirit is whole, and her body is only temporary!"

I asked God to grant me patience, and God said, "NO!"
He said, that patience is a by-product of tribulation; it isn't granted, it's
earned!

I asked God to give me happiness, and God said, "NO!"
He said, He gives blessings; happiness is up to me!

I asked God to spare me pain, and God said, NO!
He said, "Suffering draws you apart from wordly cares, and brings you closer to
Me!"

I asked God to make my spirit grow, and God said, "NO!"
He said, I must grow on my own, but He will prune me to make me more fruitful!

I asked God if He loved me, and God said, "YES!!!"
He gave His only Son who died for me, and I will be in Heaven someday because I
believe!

I asked God to help me love others as much as He love me,
And God said, "Ahhhh, finally ~ you have the idea!"

~ Claudia Weizs ~



"God Hath not Promised"

God hath not promised skies always blue
Flower strewn pathways all our lives through
God hath not promised sun without rain
Joy without sorrow, Peace without pain.

Refrain
But God hath promised, strength for today
Rest for the labor, light for the way
Grace for the trials, help from above
Unfailing sympathy, undying love.

God hath not promised we shall not know
toil and temptation, trouble and woe
He hath not told us we shall not bear
many a burden, many a care

Refrain

God hat not promised smooth roads and wide
Swift, easy travel, needing no guide
Never a mountain, rocky and steep
Never a river turbid and deep

Refrain

http://my.homewithgod.com/mkcathy/inspirational/godsaid.html

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]]> Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:32:47 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/bullets_are_sent_to_sf_members_82663187t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/bullets_are_sent_to_sf_members_82663187t.html including bullets.

It understood they were contained in packages which were left at a cemetery in
Strabane.

It is believed a local priest was then tipped off about the packages. Sinn Fein
said they do not know who was behind the threats.

In December, police reportedly warned Sinn Fein's Gerry Adams and Gerry Kelly
about dissident republican threats.

Chief Constable Sir Hugh Orde said the threats to the Sinn Fein leadership were
"very real".

Republican sources said the threats to senior party members came from
disaffected IRA members who left the organization in recent months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/northern_ireland/6267415.stm

My, my, my, how times have changed indeed... I can remember a time when the
very idea of "Republicans" dissident or otherwise would send death threats to
the SF leadership was simply inconceivable!

It's almost as if I have left the land of reality and entered the land of
alternative reality... Where the Unionists and SF are fighting the Loyalists
and Republicans to try to finally bring about a real peace!

My view of Dissidents remains the same... They are NOT interested in peace in
Ireland... They are not even interested in politics per se... They ARE
interested in being the "big man on the block"... The hooligan who uses his
"connections" to intimidate people... But this same hooligan probably couldn't
spell Pearse, nevermind tell you about his life and reasons why he was forced to
take up arms!

I fear that SF, like the Unionist DUP now sense the "end game" and are now
engaged in a chess like game of trying to position themselves... Ah... To hell
with it...

Final word:

SF - Stop being wankers and support the PSNI (we all know the leadership has for
more than a year) let your supporters "man up" and get with it... It's the way
towards actual political peace!

There WILL be a United Ireland... But perhaps, not on SF terms...

Anything that brings a New Day... In Ireland - Undivided by politics... is
something worth fighting for!

Ray
(Rant ends, you may now go back to reading the sheepish posts)

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]]> Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:40:33 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/blair_sets_our_mi5_s_future_role_in_the_six_counti_81718035t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/blair_sets_our_mi5_s_future_role_in_the_six_counti_81718035t.html "Michael O'Neill" wrote in message
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> Il Lupo Bianco (WhiteWolf) @iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>> The prime minister has insisted that
>> the police and MI5 will operate as distinct
>> bodies in Northern Ireland.
>
>
>
> In other words, they'll have a distinct
> and separate body, able to "lift" people
> on spurious charges, answerable to know one. [...]

Sorry to burst the paranoia bubble.
Officers of the Security Service do not have the power of arrest.

--

Falcon:
fide, sed cui vide. (L)

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]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:23 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/irish_to_repeal_old_nglish_laws_81703443t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/irish_to_repeal_old_nglish_laws_81703443t.html Telmey® wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:06:43 GMT, in soc.culture.irish "Falcon"
> invalid.net> wrote :
>
> >
> >Turlough wrote:
> >
> >> mothed out wrote:
> >>
> >>> Absolutely. I find the £2,500 fine if you "keep or use or act in the
> >>> management of any house, room, pit or other place for the purpose of
> >>> fighting or baiting lions" a bit much too.
> >>
> >> The £2,500 fine is, I'm sure, quite a deterrent. In the States, we just
> >> allow people to get divorced...
> >
> >I was surprised to discover that it's still illegal to wear a suit of armour
> >in the UK Parliment. A bloody stupid prohibition if you ask me.

Amour was essential when Tarzan was liable to get his hands on the
mace. It's a health and safety issue really.


> It should be
> >obligatory during PM's question time.
>
> I disagree, as most MPs leave their brain at home
> in the fridge anyway, no fear of damage or injury
> or even wear and tear!

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]]> Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:43:03 PST http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/scientific_and_conventional_corruption_in_the_uk_forensic_81569555t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/uk.current-events.n-ireland/scientific_and_conventional_corruption_in_the_uk_forensic_81569555t.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6249717.stm

Wednesday, 10 January 2007, 18:10 GMT

Omagh witnesses are investigated

The Police Ombudsman has launched an inquiry into the conduct of two key
Crown witnesses in the Omagh bomb case.

Forensics officer Fiona Cooper and Det Ch Insp Philip Marshall gave evidence
at the trial of Sean Hoey, the man accused of the bombing.

During the trial both admitted changing their statements on how some
evidence was gathered.

Mr Hoey, 37, of Jonesborough, County Armagh, denies 58 charges, including
the 29 murders in Omagh in August 1998.

Forensic evidence is a vital part of the case against him.

The prosecution claims that the south Armagh man made the bomb timers used
in Omagh and in a series of other attacks.

During cross-examination at Belfast Crown Court, Mr Marshall and Ms Cooper
admitted they had "beefed up" their original statements to suggest that
specialist forensic precautions had been taken at an explosives find, when
in fact, they had not.

The defence alleged this was done to strengthen the case against Mr Hoey.

It was also revealed that the original statements made by the witnesses had
been lost.

At one point the defence barrister, Orlando Pownall QC, asked for their
evidence to be excluded saying "their testimony is dishonest".

The prosecution lawyer, Gordon Kerr QC, told trial judge Mr Justice Weir
that he should treat their evidence "with caution".

The judge strongly criticised the conduct of the two witnesses and called
for an investigation into why some statements were altered, and the
originals lost.

BBC Newsline has learned that Nuala O'Loan, the Police Ombudsman, has now
launched a formal investigation.

Her investigators are examining the transcripts of the evidence given by the
witnesses and have also requested other relevant documents.

The judge has taken the unusual step of ruling that the investigation into
the conduct of witnesses can take place while the trial continues.

The ombudsman may request to speak to Mr Justice Weir about his concerns.

The police said they were co-operating fully with her investigation.

Previous disclosure
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=709656

Omagh: Top cop admits failings

By Jonathan McCambridge
12 October 2006

... Under cross-examination Detective Chief Inspector Philip Greer Marshall
conceded that every time his evidence was tested independently it was found
wanting. He also admitted that he had not recorded improper things because
he did not want to be "found out". ...

... In relation to his presence at the scene itself, DCI Marshall said he
believed he had been wearing a forensic suit but when Mr Pownall put to him
photographs proving otherwise, he admitted he had not been. ...

... A witness in the Omagh bombing trial has told the court that she was in
Zambia on the date which appears on her police statements.
Scenes of Crimes Officer Fiona Cooper showed her passport to the court this
week to prove she was out of Northern Ireland on the date her statements
bear.
She was the SOCO who examined the explosive device at Altmore Forest in
April 2001.
Defence barrister Orlando Pownall asked her: "Can you explain why the
certified copy contains a date when you could not possibly have made that
statement?" She said she could not.

The scientific fraud
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6162483.stm


ps
What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles
and what Special Branch don't want you to know.
http://www.oldbury.chat.ru/dnapr.htm
or nutteingd in a search engine.

Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots)
Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message -
it is defunct due to spam.

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