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Author: Steve Hodgson
Date: Oct 9, 2006 15:27

Looking into making more use of mail.app again I was surprised to see
that it still doesn't appear to have a 'send later' option to allow a
new message to be queued. Am I missing a trick here or is there some
hack available to fix this?

There MUST be times when creating messages away from a network that
this would be useful. I'm sure the functionality is there when a
message failed to send it would be queued until the next time mail was
checked.
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Steve

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Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Andy Hewitt
Date: Oct 9, 2006 15:50

Steve Hodgson gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking into making more use of mail.app again I was surprised to see
> that it still doesn't appear to have a 'send later' option to allow a
> new message to be queued. Am I missing a trick here or is there some
> hack available to fix this?
>
> There MUST be times when creating messages away from a network that
> this would be useful. I'm sure the functionality is there when a
> message failed to send it would be queued until the next time mail was
> checked.

Just use the 'Save as Draft' if you want to save a message until you
have a network. Otherwise, it does just put messages automatically into
an Out mailbox until you connect to a network.

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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Chris Ridd
Date: Oct 9, 2006 17:24

On 2006-10-09 23:50:05 +0100, wildrover.andy@googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt) said:
> Steve Hodgson gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looking into making more use of mail.app again I was surprised to see
>> that it still doesn't appear to have a 'send later' option to allow a
>> new message to be queued. Am I missing a trick here or is there some
>> hack available to fix this?
>>
>> There MUST be times when creating messages away from a network that
>> this would be useful. I'm sure the functionality is there when a
>> message failed to send it would be queued until the next time mail was
>> checked.
>
> Just use the 'Save as Draft' if you want to save a message until you
> have a network. Otherwise, it does just put messages automatically into
> an Out mailbox until you connect to a network.
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Chris Ridd
Date: Oct 9, 2006 23:56

On 2006-10-10 01:29:09 +0100, wildrover.andy@googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt) said:
> Chris Ridd mac.com> wrote:
>
> [..]
>>> Just use the 'Save as Draft' if you want to save a message until you
>>> have a network. Otherwise, it does just put messages automatically into
>>> an Out mailbox until you connect to a network.
>>
>> That's not quite the same thing though. I remember back when I used an
>> X.400 client it had exactly what Steve wanted. Though IIRC it was more
>> of an MTA feature - you submitted the mail with an instruction "send
>> this at xx:yy". SMTP's just a little bit less sophisticated :-(
>
> Yes, I see what you're saying, although Mail does do what Steve needs,
> it just *does* it.

It doesn't do what Steve wanted, which was for it to send at some
specified time in the future.
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Steve
Date: Oct 10, 2006 04:39

On Oct 10, 8:09 am, wildrover.a...@googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
> Chris Ridd mac.com> wrote:[..]
>
>>> Yes, I see what you're saying, although Mail does do what Steve needs,
>>> it just *does* it.
>
>> It doesn't do what Steve wanted, which was for it to send at some
>> specified time in the future.Actually Steve said - "I'm sure the functionality is there when a
> message failed to send it would be queued until the next time mail was
> checked."
>
>>> If you're away from a network, Mail just bungs the
>>> message into the outbox, and sends it when you connect to a network.
>>> Which was exactly what he was needing it to do.
>
>> Only if it happened to coincide with him using his Mac at the time, and
>> remembering to send that saved draft.Indeed, that is a good point. I've just checked Andreas Amann's Mail
> Scripts, and he has a 'Schedule Delivery' script.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html ...
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Andy Hewitt
Date: Oct 10, 2006 07:22

Steve gmail.com> wrote:

[..]
> Thanks for the pointers to the scripts. Probably the closest to what I
> was looking for is the Send all Drafts script.
>
> I didn't particularly want to send a message at a specific time it just
> always feels clunky that when there is no network connection available
> and a message is complete there is no way to queue it. The only option
> seems to be to send it but have that operation fail so it becomes
> queued for the next time mail is checked. Compared to the usual
> elegance of Apple apps this just doesn't feel *right*.

Yeah, I see your point, although I've never found it a problem myself,
it does just work, and I always want a message to go at the earliest
opportunity.

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Re: Mail.app         


Author: X Kyle M Thompson
Date: Oct 10, 2006 09:45

On 2006-10-10 07:56:57 +0100, Chris Ridd mac.com> said:
>
> it does have the advantage of impressing the boss that you're working
> at silly o'clock :-)

I always used to send my boxx email at the very end of the day, when I
was just staying late to take advantage of the fast interweb and CD
burner...

kt.

--
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He said 'Hundreds & Thousands?' I said 'We'll start with one.'
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: SteveH
Date: Oct 10, 2006 09:54

Andy Hewitt googlemail.com> wrote:
>> But you have a reasonable point. It is a somewhat unusual thing to want
>> a mail system to do, though it does have the advantage of impressing
>> the boss that you're working at silly o'clock :-)
>
> LOL, that's a point.

My boss would ask why I wasn't having a few beers at that time of the
day....

But then, he's German, so he would ;-)
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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Andy Hewitt
Date: Oct 10, 2006 12:02

SteveH italiancar.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy Hewitt googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> But you have a reasonable point. It is a somewhat unusual thing to want
>>> a mail system to do, though it does have the advantage of impressing
>>> the boss that you're working at silly o'clock :-)
>>
>> LOL, that's a point.
>
> My boss would ask why I wasn't having a few beers at that time of the
> day....
>
> But then, he's German, so he would ;-)

That's just being smug ;-)

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Re: Mail.app         


Author: Steve Hodgson
Date: Oct 10, 2006 13:02

On 2006-10-10 15:22:51 +0100, wildrover.andy@googlemail.com (Andy Hewitt) said:
> Steve gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [..]
>> Thanks for the pointers to the scripts. Probably the closest to what I
>> was looking for is the Send all Drafts script.
>>
>> I didn't particularly want to send a message at a specific time it just
>> always feels clunky that when there is no network connection available
>> and a message is complete there is no way to queue it. The only option
>> seems to be to send it but have that operation fail so it becomes
>> queued for the next time mail is checked. Compared to the usual
>> elegance of Apple apps this just doesn't feel *right*.
>
> Yeah, I see your point, although I've never found it a problem myself,
> it does just work, and I always want a message to go at the earliest
> opportunity.
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