CJ320 wrote: Rob wrote: Emirates temporarily withdraws A380 after engineering delay Both Emirates and Airbus have done a good job concealing the fact that the aircraft was withdrawn from service due to an in-flight electrical fire. I have some photos that I'll try and make available online. Thanks it just seemed unusual to have an engineering delay on a new "in service...

..., sometimes complete characters and/or subroutines) that could be held in memory (especially terminals, which couldn't leech onto host memory), and also on the amount of drawing that could be done before the refresh cycle gave the viewer headaches. But vector storage-tubes, led (dominated?) by Tektronix, could draw an effectively unlimited amount, dot-addressable -- although doing it on a ...

...re looking for. I found it difficult to keep track of items on the stack, particularly when the stack got deep. Factoring let me keep individual routines simple enough to debug. I could have done that using lots of global variables, but compared to languages that implicitly define a variable when you use it, that was tedious and it was obviously wasteful. I could make a large Fortran program...

... number of Forth words to be defined to solve a particular problem? When overloading what would you suggest? More training wheels? Force the programmer to declare "OVERLOAD" each time it is done? How could the Forth system "choose" a method without the programmer's knowledge? The rules for which methods are to be invoked via inheritance or whatever mechanism are precisely defined. ...

... that if you use a very simple Forth that has no locals etc, bad coding practices tend to show up as bad right away. It takes good technique to get anything much done. I asked you to provide an example illustrating how under Forth, bad practice shows up as bad "right away." You started by describing a monster nested control structure that didn't compile. That's...

....g. Java or Perl * A hardware description language (like VHDL or Verilog) * A highly popular language like C When you have done that, the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is not that important anymore. But few people ever do. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/

...> I took the extravagant step of actually downloading the ebook, and even reading^H^H^H^H^H^H^H vaguely skimming through it. My impression was it is very short, not professionally done, and has nothing of ground breaking interest in it Which probably means that an absolute newbie might find something to learn from it, I suppose. As long as it's not just keyboard jockey BS ...

...> |---------------------------------| | At my age a woman's mind should | | be more important than her body.| |---------------------------------| I took the extravagant step of actually downloading the ebook, and even reading^H^H^H^H^H^H^H vaguely skimming through it. My impression was it is very short, not professionally done, and has nothing of ground breaking interest in it

...tend to show up as bad right away. It takes good technique to get anything much done. In what sense does bad coding practice show up as bad right away? Forth is no different...writing that code until after the lower code is somewhat stable, since it will all have to be done over again anyway. This doesn't guarantee great code, but it tends to provide early warning about many...

... was that if you use a very simple Forth that has no locals etc, bad coding practices tend to show up as bad right away. It takes good technique to get anything much done. In what sense does bad coding practice show up as bad right away? Forth is no different from any other language in this regard. Bad coding practice (poorly factored definitions, deeply nested control structures,...