> 作者: jaysuzuki (Ichiro McGrady) 站內: P_jaysuzuki
> 標題: [轉錄]KOBE當隊友真恐怖...
> 時間: Wed May 28 22:40:11 2008
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> ※ 本文轉錄自 [P_Vexed] 看板
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> 標 題: KOBE當隊友真恐怖...
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> 作者: claus (La Jolla) 看板: Lakers
> 標題: KOBE當隊友真恐怖...
> 時間: Wed May 28 14:19:36 2008
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> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_ballard/05/27/kobe0602/index...
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> Kobe's well-honed killer instinct
>
> (因為要唸書 所以不全翻 提重點跟我喜歡的片段）
>
>
> It's 1989, and Bryant is 11 years old and living in Italy, where his father,
> Joe, is playing professional basketball. One day Kobe bugs Brian Shaw, a
> Boston Celtics first-round pick playing in Rome because of a contract dispute,
> to go one-on-one. Eventually Shaw agrees to a game of H-O-R-S-E. "To this day
> Kobe claims he beat me," says Shaw, now a Lakers assistant. "I'm like, Right,
> [I'm really trying to beat] an 11-year-old kid. But he's serious." Even back
> then Shaw noticed something different. "His dad was a good player, but he was
> the opposite of Kobe, real laid-back," says Shaw. "Kobe was out there
> challenging grown men to play one-on-one, and he really thought he could win."
>
> Kobe小時候在義大利長大。11歲的那一年有幸遇到義大利打球的Shaw。Kobe一直纏著
> Shaw來一場一對一。最後他們比了一場HORSE(有點類似環遊世界的定點投籃比賽)。直到
> 今天Kobe仍認為他贏了比賽，但是Shaw笑笑的說我對一個11歲小孩會多認真呢？但是那
> 時候Shaw就注意到Kobe與眾不同。他不斷跟大人挑戰，而且相信自己可以贏的。
> （有點像澤北榮治 XD）
>
> It's 1995, and Bryant is the senior leader of the Lower Merion team, obsessed
> with winning a state championship. He comes to the gym at 5 a.m. to work out
> before school, stays until 7 p.m. afterward. It's all part of the plan. When
> the Aces lost in the playoffs the previous spring, Bryant stood in the locker
> room, interrupting the seniors as they hugged each other, and all but
> guaranteed a title, adding, "The work starts now." (Bryant remains so amped
> about his alma mater that when he taped a video message for the team a few
> years ago, it contained few of the usual platitudes and instead had Bryant
> reeling off a bunch of expletives and exhorting the boys to "take care of
> f------ business!")
>
> Kobe高中的時候就一直想著要贏得州冠軍。他早上五點上課之前進健身房，下課之後繼續
> 健身到晚上七點。當他高三（美國有些高中是四年制）的時候在季後賽輸球，他在休息室
> 打斷當時高四的互相惜別，當場保證明年要贏得冠軍，並且烙下「一切從現在開始」。
> 時至今日，Kobe還是很關心他的高中母校。幾年前他曾經錄了一段影片回去給學弟加油
> 打氣。然而，卻不是預期的精神鼓舞，而是三字經連篇的瘋狂激勵文（請見原文）
>
> Bryant had already begun to coax teammates into staying late or coming in at
> odd hours so he could hone his skills. "We'd play games of one-on-one to 100,
> " says Schwartz. "Sometimes he'd score 80 points before I got one basket. I
> think the best I ever did was to lose 100-12." Imagine the focus required to
> score 80 freakin' baskets before your opponent scores one. And Bryant's
> probably still pissed that Schwartz broke double digits.
>
> Kobe那時候就已經開始誘導他的隊友留下來練習或是在奇怪的時間練習，而原因是因為
> 這樣子他才有對手可以練習自己的技巧。他的高中隊友（原文前一段在講說有一次練習
> 的時候他們比三打三搶十分。比賽九平的時候，平常都是暖板凳的Schwartz突然有個
> 大空檔，但是上籃放槍沒進，也輸了那場比賽。結束之後Kobe追上他並且開始他的疲勞
> 轟炸，似乎剛剛那個放槍讓他們輸掉了州冠軍）Schwartz常常就被Kobe拉去打一對一，
> 而且是比到100分。Schwartz回憶的說「有時候Kobe常常得到了80分我才得到第一分。
> 我記得我最好的一次是100-12輸球吧。」你可以想像需要何等的專注力才有辦法80-0嗎
> ，而且Kobe大概還在生氣他竟然被得了12分吧。
>
> It would be a pattern: Bryant bearing down on players he once idolized. At
> Magic Johnson's summer charity game in 1998 he went after Orlando Magic star
> Penny Hardaway so hard -- in a charity game -- that Hardaway spent the fall
> telling people he couldn't wait to play the Lakers so he could go back at
> Bryant. And, more famously, Kobe attempted to go one-on-one against Jordan in
> the '98 All-Star Game, waving off a screen from Karl Malone. Take your
> pick-and-rolling butt out of here; I've got Jordan iso'd! That one didn't go
> over so well with the Mailman. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way,
> " Malone said at the time, "that's a game I don't need to be in."
>
> 這情形對Kobe而言逐漸變成了常態（原文前一段說了他剛被交易到湖人之後，West要他
> 跟Michael Cooper一對一看看他的技巧，結果打了十球之後West就不用打了，並直言
> Kobe大概是全隊球技最強的）。1998年魔術的慈善比賽的時候，他超級認真的想單吃
> 一分錢Hardaway。結果賽後那個暑假，Hardaway逢人便說他等不及球季開始對上湖人
> 的比賽，因為他要回敬Kobe。另一個比較著名的例子，1998年明星賽。有一球Kobe嘗試
> 要單打Jordan，結果老前輩Malone過來幫他設單擋，結果Kobe揮手把Malone趕走。賽後
> Malone小不爽的說「當年輕小伙子叫我閃開的時候，這就是一個我不想參與的比賽。」
>
> In Bryant's mind, however, no one is unbeatable. As a rookie with the Lakers,
> despite his coming straight out of high school, he approached Harris. "He said
> , 'Coach, if you just give me the ball and clear out, I can beat anybody in
> this league,' " recalls Harris. When that pitch didn't work, the 6' 6" Bryant
> returned. "Then he'd say, 'Coach, I can post up anybody who's guarding me. If
> you just get me in there and clear it out, I can post up anybody.' " Harris
> chuckles. "I said, 'Kobe, I know you can, but right now you can't do it at a
> high enough rate for the team we have, and I'm not going to tell Shaquille
> O'Neal to get out of the way so you can do this.' Kobe didn't like it.
> He understood it, but in his heart he didn't accept it."
>
>
> 在Kobe眼中，沒有人不能被打敗的。還是湖人菜鳥的時候，他跟教練Del Harris說「教練
> ，只要你把球給我並且把其他人清開，我可以打敗聯盟內任何一個人。」當他的訴求沒有
> 得到教練首肯的時候，他又跟Harris說「教練，我可以在禁區單打任何一個人，只要你讓
> 我在禁區要球並且清開所有人。」Harris跟Kobe說「我知道你可以，但是現在在這個星光
> 閃閃的球隊並沒有辦法讓你這樣子。我不可能跟歐肥說離開禁區讓你在禁區單打。」Kobe
> 了解，但是內心深處無法接受這個事實。
>
> It is 2000, and Bryant is an All-Star and franchise player. Still, after
> guard Isaiah Rider signs as a free agent, Bryant repeatedly forces him to
> play one-on-one after practice -- Bryant wins, of course -- to reinforce his
> alpha alpha male status. When six-time All-Star guard Mitch Richmond arrives
> the next year, he gets the same. "He was the man, and he wanted us to know it,
> " says Richmond. "He was never mean or personal about it, it's just how he was.
> "
>
> 2000年的時候，他已經成為明星球員以及球團招牌人物。但是依然的，在Isaiah Rider
> 簽下自由球員合約加入球隊的時候，他不斷的強迫Rider跟他在練球結束後來比一對一（
> 當然的Kobe都贏）以鞏固自己球隊一哥的地位。隔年六屆明星賽球員Mitch Richmind加
> 入的時候，也遭受一樣的待遇。Richmind說「他是一哥，並且他要我們都知道。他不曾
> 粗魯或是針對個人，這只是Kobe在當Kobe而已。」
>
> Not that Bryant never loses, but beat him at your own risk. Decline a rematch
> and . . . well, that's not an option. "If you scored on him in practice or did
> something to embarrass him, he would just keep on challenging you and
> challenging you until you stayed after and played him so he could put his
> will on you and dominate you," says Shaw, Bryant's teammate from 1999 to 2003.
> This included not allowing players to leave the court. Literally. "He'd stand
> in our way and say, 'Nah, nah, we're gonna play. I want you to do that [move]
> again,' " Shaw says. "And you might be tired and say, 'Nah, I did it in
> practice.' But he was just relentless and persistent until finally you'd go
> play, and he'd go at you."
>
> Kobe不是不會輸球，但是要打贏他請自己承擔後果。拒絕再比一次不是選擇。Shaw說「
> 如果你在練習的時候單吃他得分或是讓他出糗的話，他會不斷的挑戰你，直到你同意練習
> 結束之後留下來跟他繼續比賽。這還包括不准球員離開球場！他會阻擋他們的去路並說著
> ：不不！我們要繼續比賽。我要你再做一次剛剛的動作。你也許累了然後跟他說我剛剛練
> 習的時候已經作過，但是他會堅持不放棄的要球你直到你同意，然後他就會想盡辦法打敗
> 你。」
>
> "If he's a ruthless s.o.b., I kind of respect that," says Ravin. "Why should
> he be passing up opportunities? Why pass it to a guy who doesn't work as hard
> , who doesn't want it like you do?
> 
> Ravin(神樣之訓練員，顧客名單包括Carmelo, Arenas, and Brand 被稱為the hoops
> whisperer)曾說過「如果他是一個沒有禮貌的混帳，我尊敬這樣的評語。他為甚麼要
> 放棄機會？為甚麼要傳球給一個沒有你來得努力練習，沒有你這麼想要成功的另一個人
> 呢？
>
> "Even now, every little challenge matters to Bryant. Here he is at the end of
> a practice last week. Each Laker has to take a free throw. Everybody hits his
> except Bryant, who rims one out. The only shooter left is Derek Fisher, who
> shot 88.3%% from the line this season. Bryant stands to the side of the basket
> , fidgeting. As Fisher's shot arcs toward the rim, Bryant suddenly takes two
> quick steps and leaps to goaltend the attempt. "Of course," forward Lamar
> Odom says later, "he couldn't be the only one to miss."
>
> Odom說「就算是現在，任何一個小挑戰Kobe都當作是一回事。上個禮拜練習快結束的時候
> ，每個球員都需要罰一球。所有人都罰進了，除了Kobe之外。還沒投的只剩下Fisher。
> 要期待Fisher沒罰進還蠻困難的。於是Kobe鬼鬼祟祟的靠近籃框。當Fisher投出的時候，
> Kobe突然上前兩步並且蓋掉那球，儘管已經勾天頂了。想當然，他不可能當唯一沒罰進
> 的球員。」 （這時候就顯現出歐肥的價值了 XD）
>
> --
> 唸書去
> 還好我不是Kobe的隊員，或是他的同學 不然大概1000-0都不是問題吧...
>
> --
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> 推 EmmaPao:真的有點恐怖... 但是KOBE就是這樣才會成功  05/28 14:24
> 推 wowowawa:真恐怖.......  05/28 14:25
> → RAGERACER:我以前跟同學PK 30分就喘的跟狗一樣..  05/28 14:25
> 推 boywant:XD  05/28 14:25
> 推 JohnCena15:不得不佩服他對籃球的執著 也難怪我甘願排好幾個小時  05/28 14:26
> → JohnCena15:只為了一賭KOBE風采  05/28 14:27
> 推 mr81lakers:我看成KOBE要念書 所以很恐怖  05/28 14:27
> 推 littlewoo:神經病~╯-____-)╯~═╩════╩═~  05/28 14:27
> 推 Verlander35:打球贏他下場會更慘 感覺就是輸不起XD 不過也是這個性  05/28 14:29
> → Verlander35:令他成功( ￣ c￣)y▂ξ  05/28 14:29
> 推 fredericking:老大魂阿.....  05/28 14:29
> 推 jeffro:很讚~~!  05/28 14:30
> 推 demonazx:-.-  05/28 14:30
> 推 holyhelm:這個性不大妙~ 跟jordan差不多  05/28 14:30
> → holyhelm:好像CP3也有類似性格...  05/28 14:31
> 推 xw668:是不妙　會變成很偉大球員的不妙  05/28 14:31
> → RAGERACER:真的是打贏他,麻煩才會纏身XD  05/28 14:32
> 推 cccwka:推~~~~  05/28 14:32
> 推 goldenlen:真是奧客 XD  05/28 14:33
> 推 pcisfifa:XD Kobe對勝利的執著非常人所及  05/28 14:34
> → Verlander35:讓我聯想到禪師打nba電動 也是輸不起...莎莎哭哭XD  05/28 14:35
> ※ 編輯: claus 來自: 128.120.178.167 (05/28 14:35)
> 推 pcf:給你贏總行了吧 (翻桌) XD  05/28 14:35
> → chinhan1216:老實說 這個性還挺白濫的...  05/28 14:37
> 推 Desarey:讚在哪裡 分明是個自私的傢伙  05/28 14:38
> → oldfat:這種個性說積極很積極 不過真的也滿讓人畏懼的XD  05/28 14:38
> → Desarey:這種個性是兩面刃 一方面造就了他的成功  05/28 14:39
> → fredericking:給我贏不行；我不要你讓我!!!  05/28 14:39
> 推 JohnCena15:自私又怎樣 他現在這麼成熟 況且也是這個性讓他成功的  05/28 14:39
> → oldfat:樓樓上讓我想起小傑vs半藏XD  05/28 14:40
> → Desarey:另一方面也造成了他直到了"現在"才算真正成功  05/28 14:41
> → RAGERACER:Jordan真正成功也是差不多歲數啊XD  05/28 14:41
> 推 aliot:我反而慶幸有這樣的隊友 如此的自我要求和求勝欲望可不是每  05/28 14:41
> → aliot:個人都做得到的  05/28 14:41
> 推 mikecan:我也好想讓Kobe纏著我喔(羞)  05/28 14:41
> 推 Xenomorph:最後故意蓋掉漁夫的罰球很好玩 XD  05/28 14:42
> 推 NightEleven:看這篇讓我想到仇笑痴.....陳金城:「高進!你看!(脫)」  05/28 14:46
> 推 MicroB:死小孩一枚 就是如同死小孩一般的任性固執心無旁務 才能有  05/28 14:46
> → MicroB:如此蟑螂一般打死不退的毅力 他運氣好有實力做後盾 倒是他  05/28 14:47
> → MicroB:如此堅強的實力是因此而來也因而讓他更死小孩就不的而知了  05/28 14:48
> 推 Ppqp:有沒有科比得了強迫症的八卦  05/28 14:50
> 推 wb:恐怖!!!!!!!!!  05/28 14:53
> 推 loquito:Cooper:都老了還要被死小孩欺負....哭哭  05/28 14:56
> 推 isjl:我也跟朋友打過100分全場一對一，但後來都互飆三分而已...  05/28 14:57
> → isjl:Kobe...我還是看他打球就好了，West應該慶幸自己老了，不然他  05/28 14:58
> → isjl:跟賈霸都會被抓去一對一到死吧...  05/28 14:58
> 推 oldfat:賈霸不會吧 位置身材差這麼多  05/28 14:59
> 推 richard1003:Kobe是這種個性  05/28 15:00
> → richard1003:他會對例行賽當熱身賽打的人不滿可以想見  05/28 15:00
> 推 pcisfifa:我只記我我跟你打過1對1 50分XD 吃你內線 你狂投三分= =  05/28 15:00
> 推 loquito:如果是alcindor的話 Kobe可能會哭吧....XD  05/28 15:02
> 推 max77712000:難怪KOBE後來對歐胖的打球態度這麼不滿  05/28 15:28
> 推 dennis331533:他有強迫症嗎XDDDD  05/28 15:29
> 推 CW4:Ravin另外也是CP3的訓練員喔  05/28 15:31
> 推 dennis331533:KOBE:賈霸來啦 我用MAGIC的鉤射就好~ 賈霸:= =凸  05/28 15:32
> 推 kobe1104:Hourse不是環遊世界 是我做什麼動作 你就得做什麼動作  05/28 15:34
> → kobe1104:你失敗 就有一個H 當誰集滿H-O-R-S-E 誰就輸了  05/28 15:35
> → kobe1104:上上面更正 是 Horse  05/28 15:35
> → claus:阿我就說是類似的定點投籃 XD 類似嘛.....  05/28 15:39
> → RAGERACER:滿江紅=環遊世界=定點投籃..跟Horse差很多  05/28 15:40
> → RAGERACER:打錯,滿江紅應該是另外一個.是步步高昇才對XD  05/28 15:41
> 推 richard1003:Horse比較像滿江紅啦  05/28 15:42
> → RAGERACER:Horse我玩過,不過如果不會灌籃的話最好別玩....會很無聊  05/28 15:43
> → claus:我知道HORSE是啥 只是懶得翻 XD  05/28 15:45
> 推 ted0217:XD  05/28 15:46
> 推 lee1126:這已經是變態了芭..有某種偏執狂....  05/28 15:47
> 推 CarlosArroyo:這傢伙真是任性...kerker  05/28 15:52
> → CarlosArroyo:一般人想跟她一樣囂張應該都會沒自信吧...真強  05/28 15:52
> 推 CarlosArroyo:不過是很真的性格...跟沒自信而裝酷的人完全相反  05/28 15:55
> 推 SULICon:Horse我這邊叫做PIG 都是動物就對了XD  05/28 16:01
> 推 KerryWood:很靠背的個性不過是KOBE的話就沒差XD  05/28 16:03
> 推 ohnaoh:他根本是個瘋子 @@  05/28 16:12
> 推 Spartan117:想贏想到發瘋了　他強得不正常　精神也不太正常XD  05/28 16:31
> 推 RickymarU:好在他在有這種性格同時 對自己要求也是最嚴格的  05/28 16:34
> ※ bulletproof:轉錄至看板 NBA 05/28 16:56
> 推 Eiichirou:Malone那段原文看不出來不爽啊....  05/28 17:07
> → Eiichirou:don't need 跟don't want 語氣有差吧  05/28 17:08
> → claus:didn't go over so well 有小不爽的意思  05/28 17:08
> → claus:防彈人轉的很順手嘛.....  05/28 17:09
> 推 myths:這個性 囧  05/28 17:11
> 推 Eiichirou:嗯:P  05/28 17:15
> 推 k7117836:瘋子...  05/28 17:17
> 推 pinkygiveme:他把打球當職業阿，這跟商人工作狂、學生想考榜首一樣  05/28 17:33
> → pinkygiveme:只是對事業跟理念的執著 當然不能跟一般休閒打球比較  05/28 17:34
> 推 b91314403:太恐怖了吧....  05/28 17:35
> 推 nanayayadada:一百分那個我玩過 還玩過兩百分  05/28 18:01
> 推 killmejohn:瘋了...........  05/28 19:00
> 推 Kreen:推～  05/28 19:26
> 推 fagout:有實力的人才能自大，如果每個像KOBE一樣的球員，都搞謙虛  05/28 19:27
> → fagout:我想NBA一定超難看的。。。。。。  05/28 19:28
> 推 maigawapa:最後一段 好機喔 XD  05/28 19:46
> 推 qtzbbztq:KOBE如果是跟JORDAN對打應該會起笑吧 兩個人互吃到一千分  05/28 20:13
> → qtzbbztq:可能還平手  05/28 20:13
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> ＊jaysuzuki 加分：我就說像流川楓吧!!根本一模一樣 08/05/28
> ＊jaysuzuki 加分：井上真神 可以預知Kobe的誕生 08/05/28
> ＊jaysuzuki 加分：其實Kobe是看SD長大的啦 08/05/28
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> ＊childgod929 轉錄：本文已轉錄到看板 P_bigmouth 08/05/28
> ＊jaysuzuki 回文：為什麼轉過去要密? 08/05/28
> ＊childgod929 回文：再修改文章 08/05/28
> ＊nickypsy 加分：有奧客的ＦＵ～～ 08/05/29