"And is it true, and is it true?

This most tremendous tale of all.

Seen in a stained glass window's hue

A baby, in an ox's stall.

The maker of the stars and sea,

Became a child on earth, for me?

And is it true?

For if it is, no loving fingers tying strings

Around those tissued fripperies, the sweet and silly Christmas things

Bath salts, and inexpensive scent

And hideous tie, so kindly meant.

No love that in a family dwells

No carolling in frosty air

Nor all the steeple-shaking bells

Can with this simple truth compare:

That God was man in Palestine

And lives today, in bread and wine."

Betjemann

--

An interesting view of history of the Middle East

http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/EMPIRE17.swf gives you a 5000 year view of
the various empires which
have ruled the Middle East. It takes about 90 seconds.

--

Shalom! Rowland Croucher

'It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so' (Mark Twain)

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/ - 18,700 articles/ 4000 humour

Jesus [46] The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions (32)

Continuing our summary/review of Tom Wright and Marcus Borg's discussion...
For other articles in this series visit
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/catalog/section/jc1.htm.

These brief excerpts are meant to provoke thought/reflection...

The final word from Tom Wright:

'Once we focus both history and faith on Jesus of Nazareth... we may perhaps
find that creation, sacraments, human life, politics, history, and faith
come rushing together in new integrations for which as yet we have no
language but worship. That, too, seems to me to possess the ring of truth.

'What, after all, is the end of all this endeavour? Is it that we, as
historians, theologians, cultural critics, or whatever, should analyze a
question to our own satisfaction, provide an answer that...

Make Room For The Satanic, Queer, New World Order America: Here is
the BASSACKWARD World NOW being promoted as NORMAL today -- WAKE THE
HELL UP, AMERICA!!

sorrowmaster 71.254.80.254 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Tue Dec 19, 2006 13:37

s: > Oh really, Ray honey?

s: > How many new converts ya got, huh? Yeah, I thought so. ZERO.
You are nothing but a narcissistic, arrogant, sonofabitch, who is
totally paranoid.

s: > Sexually dysfunctional yahoo, eh? Well, I am bisexual, with
strong homosexual leanings, if that is what you mean. And yes, I am
proud that I'm not insane like you, and am instead somewhat normal.

"Somewhat normal???" WAKE THE HELL UP, AMERICA!!

s: > Nope, sorry to dissapoint, there is NO conspiracy against you.
No one actually listens to you. No one actually cares. I'm not even
sure why I'm bothering to write this, knowing that you will write
stupid and nonsensical comments, and that you are going to post this
on any number of forums.

Why Are "Poopy Dropping," Tail Wagging, Approval Seeking, Gullible
Dupes Attracted to Satanic Mind Controllers? --- Spam, spam,
spam...does ANYONE listen to this guy? (nm)

sorrowmaster 71.254.80.254 wrote:

Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:

Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:18

s: > Spam, spam, spam...does ANYONE listen to this guy? (nm)

rk: You bet THEY listen to this guy!