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Author: marques de sademarques de sade Date: Apr 21, 2008 10:31
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:01 +0900, dh@. wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:21:45 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
> >>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:44 +0900, dh@. wrote:
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>>>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:55:52 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net...
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Author: Freedom FighterFreedom Fighter Date: Apr 21, 2008 12:41
See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?
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Author: marques de sademarques de sade Date: Apr 21, 2008 14:48
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:41:31 GMT, "Freedom Fighter"
once.net> wrote:
>See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?
>
>
it's like anything else... not everybody takes it to an extreme so
that it takes over their life... deep inside they know it's bogus.
--
`We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all mankind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the elements of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and battering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astronomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connection, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matter are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Abramson
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Author: panamfloydpanamfloyd Date: Apr 21, 2008 15:56
On Apr 21, 1:32Â pm, jesucris...@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:01 +0900, dh@. wrote:
snippy
> so why do you act like you engage atheists in debate from a
> scientific perspective when all is settled religiously for you...
They never seem to understand how absurd it looks to someone who's not
a member of their own religion.
God believers, it really is this simple:
I don't believe your gods exist. Just try to use your imagination for
a moment, and I'll attempt to explain to you how it sounds to us. When
you try to tell me that your holy books are "proof" of something,
imagine that I'm trying to get you to "believe" in Goku using my
Dragonball Z DVDs as proof. When a document is *part* of the mythos,
it has no impact upon someone *outside* the mythos.
Your religion is *not* important to somone who does not share it. It
really is that simple.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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Author: marques de sademarques de sade Date: Apr 21, 2008 22:13
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:56:31 -0700 (PDT), panamfloyd@ hotmail.com
wrote: >God believers, it really is this simple:
>
>I don't believe your gods exist. Just try to use your imagination for
>a moment, and I'll attempt to explain to you how it sounds to us. When
>you try to tell me that your holy books are "proof" of something,
>imagine that I'm trying to get you to "believe" in Goku using my
>Dragonball Z DVDs as proof. When a document is *part* of the mythos,
>it has no impact upon someone *outside* the mythos.
>
>Your religion is *not* important to somone who does not share it. It
>really is that simple.
>
>-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
i guess they think that their books apply to "ALL" humans...
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`We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all mankind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the elements of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and battering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astronomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connection, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matter are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Abramson
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Date: Apr 21, 2008 18:18
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:32:15 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:01 +0900, dh@. wrote:
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>>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:21:45 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
>> >>>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:44 +0900, dh@. wrote:
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>>>>On...
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Date: Apr 21, 2008 18:19
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:56:31 -0700 (PDT), panamfloyd@ hotmail.com wrote:
>On Apr 21, 1:32Â pm, jesucris...@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:01 +0900, dh@. wrote:
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>snippy
>
>> so why do you act like you engage atheists in debate from a
>> scientific perspective when all is settled religiously for you...
>
>They never seem to understand how absurd it looks to someone who's not
>a member of their own religion.
>
>God believers, it really is this simple:
>
>I don't believe your gods exist.
Are you willing to admit your faith in that, or are you ashamed
to as the vast majority of strong atheists appear to be?
>Just try to use your imagination for
>a moment, and I'll attempt to explain to you how it sounds to us.
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Author: marques de sademarques de sade Date: Apr 22, 2008 22:28
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:18:10 +0900, dh@. wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:32:15 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
> If God does exist, I believe he can and most likely does
>control what goes into books that are considered canonical
>...at least as much as he cares to. If you don't, then YOU
>explain why you don't think so.
because it's like saying to someone that he/she must believe in
Goku by handing them a Dragonball Z DVD as proof...
>
>>so why do you act like you engage atheists in debate from a
>>scientific perspective when all is settled religiously for you...
>
> I consider it to be a scientific perspective to try to think
>realistically about how God could exist, etc.
you go through some motions that mimic rational approach but in
the end what may be deduced through logic will get discarded in
favor of Divine Revelation, which cannot be questioned...
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Date: Apr 22, 2008 22:21
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:28:53 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:18:10 +0900, dh@. wrote:
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>>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:32:15 GMT, jesucristo2@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:
>> If God does exist, I believe he can and most likely does
>>control what goes into books that are considered canonical
>>...at least as much as he cares to. If you don't, then YOU
>>explain why you don't think so. >
>because it's like saying to someone that he/she must believe in
>Goku by handing them a Dragonball Z DVD as proof...
It's not like that in any way.
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Author: panamfloydpanamfloyd Date: Apr 23, 2008 18:07
On Apr 21, 9:19Â pm, dh@. wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:56:31 -0700 (PDT), panamfl...@ hotmail.com wrote: >>On Apr 21, 1:32Â pm, jesucris...@ netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:02:01 +0900, dh@. wrote:
>
>>snippy
>
>>> so why do you act like you engage atheists in debate from a
>>> scientific perspective when all is settled religiously for you...
>
>>They never seem to understand how absurd it looks to someone who's not
>>a member of their own religion.
>
>>God believers, it really is this simple:
>
>>I don't believe your gods exist.
>
> Â Â Are you willing to admit your faith in that, or are you ashamed
> to as the vast majority of strong atheists appear to be?
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