"LotsaQuestions" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Don't, a moron would look great when compared to you.

"LotsaQuestions" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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science into

It appears so.

Sightings 11/30/06

Ted Haggard's "Sin" -- Jon Pahl

Now that some of the dust has settled from the unfortunate fall of
evangelical leader Ted Haggard -- who has confessed to being a "sinner" to
his congregation -- we can achieve some longer-range perspective on what it
all means.

I agree with Martin Marty that Rev. Haggard, along with his family and all
those involved in this scandal, deserves compassion, and one wishes him
peace (see "Considering Ted Haggard's Plight," Sightings, November 6). But
Haggard's letter to his church reveals a truncated understanding of sin and
a failure to recognize how the movement he led as President of the National
Association of Evangelicals is in part responsible for his plight.

Like most evangelicals, Haggard is the theological heir of Saint Augustine,
finding sin in pride and lust. Unlike Augustine, however, Haggard sees
pride and lust as personal attributes. "I alone am responsible," he asserts
in his letter. "I created this entire situation," he reiterates. And yet a
third time he says, "It was created 100 percent by me."

"LotsaQuestions" yahoo.com> wrote in
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Well exactly, it's not science. So what's the point in researching it? It
offers no empirical evidence, no predictions, no proof. It require
actively ignoring and lying about mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Because it's supernatural, it can't be falsified. Note that does not mean
it should be given equal weight to the ToE, something that has been
subject to rigorous peer review and examination, it means it's purely a
position of faith amongst a minority of a minority.

If you want to believe in creation, fine, but don't try and sell lies and
obfuscation to the rest of us and try to pretend it's anything other than
lies and obfuscation.

"Grandbank" wrote in news:1164834950.428061.262940@
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Perhaps anyone who doesn't believe that would like to try walking slowly
over a steel sheet heated to the same temperature. Should be interesting.