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]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:31:04 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/talk.religion.jewish.reform/persecution_of_the_jewish_people_by_arrogant_christian_42425525t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/talk.religion.jewish.reform/persecution_of_the_jewish_people_by_arrogant_christian_42425525t.html >On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:36:30 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>>> Then just say whether you suck up to the beast or you deny
>>>>>his existence.

I'll suck up to the Beast any day before I suck up to any false
Christ-image manufactured for the purpose of manipulating the
masses.

>>>>i don't know what beast you are referring to here. i only believe
>>>>in myself and the beast within myself, not in any cartoon
>>>>character fabricated by the christians.
>>>
>>> At this point my impression is that the concept of Lucifer (or
>>>what/who ever) is included in the Old Testament, and that is
>>>what/who is Satan. That means the idea was around long
>>>before Christianity.

One has to question the validity of any Christian interpretation
as portrayed in an English translation of the Old Testament. The
Hebrew language is very complex and where the word Satan appears
in a Christian bible, there more than likely are a number of
possible meanings associated with the actual Hebrew word in
question that are not being properly understood. One cannot go to
a Christian translation of Hebrew writing and expect that it is
going to be a valid representation of what those Hebrew authors
were trying to convey.

> Christ changed things, and unless you accept what he
>changed there will be things you could never understand.
>Of course even if you accept them you'll never be able to
>understand everything, but you would still be a lot better off
>than you are now if it's all for real. If it's all just bullshit then
>it makes no difference what anyone thinks.

To me Christ is just a myth. When a myth is brought from the realm
of the allegorical into the realm of the literal it loses its
significance and true import. Everything that is known as
Christianity today is absolute bullshit and has no
transformational value for humans per say. Humans may accept the
historical (false) Christ and achieve some seeming transformation
but this is due to their desire to change in the first place, and
not from any external influence associated with belief in a
literal Christ. If those people applied the same amount of effort
into trying to understand the mythical (true) Christ, any
spiritual advancement would be magnified for it would no longer be
an internal process but an actual external phenomena being
triggered by meditation upon the true meaning of said myth.

>>Judaism and Christianity are totally different
>>religions with different philosophical outlooks on life and the
>>world. Most importantly, the Jews do not accept Christ as the
>>Messiah, so according to Christians, that stance is itself
>>Satanic.
>
> We have no reason to believe the Jews are right.

We have every reason to listen to and trust in what any Jew says
of his own religion and own ancient writings much more than what a
Christian thinks of those same Hebrew writings. If a Jew says that
Christ is not the messiah, then that should be a settled issue and
there is absolutely no point in trying to tell a Jew what his
religion should be or shouldn't. The arrogance of Christians to
take a religion and turn it on its head is of a magnitude that
cannot be measured and has contributed more to the persecution of
Jews than anything else in the last two millennia. The True God
(if there is such a thing) will one day avenge the inhumane
persecution of the Jewish people by arrogant and ignorant
Christians who persist in misinterpreting Holy Scripture and
mythological teachings.

>The persecution etc they must bear as a people is evidence of
>where they are on that, if it's all for real.

It shows that ignorance and evil knows no bounds.

> The only Jew I
>discussed it with in person doesn't believe in any afterlife,

God bless him.

>or in Satan. When I asked why bother praying and all that
>then, he acted like it was for this life only. However, the
>OT does mention resurrection:

Nor you nor any other Christian knows more than a Jew about his
own ancient writings or about his own religion.

[bullshit biblical quotations snipped]

>>>>any brand of satanism will be better than the
>>>>worst brand of christianity.
>>>
>>> Can you provide examples?

Satanists don't go around distorting other people's religions and
persecuting said people for millennia based on lies and hatred;
thus by default the worst Satanist will be more respectful and
humane than even the best Christian with the seeming best of
intentions.

octinomos

--

``Could it be that ... political theater is being staged, very much like the wrestling matches on TV, with the so-called neoconservatives and their so-called enemies, such as Pat Buchanan, loudly making public statements intended to convince the opponents of US foreign policy actions that these actions are the fault of 'the Jews'?'' --Jared Israel/Emperor's Clothes

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]]> Sat, 19 May 2007 19:48:08 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/talk.religion.jewish.reform/help_me_8850357t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/talk.religion.jewish.reform/help_me_8850357t.html today.

Christian's departure in the day of Rapture could be likening to
it.Sudden.Short and sharp.

By not getting ready, all regrets and recriminations would be too late. I
suspect in eternity, no one will ever feel the loss and grief for loved
ones, and God promises all that the former things shall remember no more.
The cries and weeping from the nether world would be confined to their
spheres, and they would be taught no lessons anymore.

No one will ever care for the lost cause, in eternity. It was written," It
is a fearful thing to fall under hands of God".

Matthew 24 has been the focus for serious minded believers. The words of
Jesus were so fearful, and his prophecies threaten every lifestyle known in
our secular world. No human being would be able to sleep peacefully, nor
rest with contentment.

Christians preparing to depart from this Earth has now spanned to 2000 over
years.

No one ever issue warnings to people that contain severity like that of the
Lord Jesus.

No human ever had an agenda that shows concern for the plight of mankind.

No one ever spoke like Jesus.

No one had a perfect life like Jesus.

No one is so consume with passions to redeem human race from doom and gloom,
except Jesus.

No one ever estimate the price of one single soul, which is weightier than
all the Worlds combined.

No one is interested to die for another fellow.

No one can deal with the logistics and cumbersome after life, nor goes to
the length to describe it.

Everyday people are dying without hope, and knew next to nothing about after
life. There are cries of help for healing from Cancers. From
Lukemia.Aids.Despair.Problems.

Neither relief nor help was offered to solve those recurring problems. In
vain that many cries just fall flat. What to do?

Do you believe in the Lord Jesus?

God spoke to the world, but would they believe in Him?

Apostle Paul told the world that the god of this world is controlling many
affairs of life, but theologians refused to believe the Bible, and Paul's
words.

The belief that stems from so-called Bible-seminiaries, thinking that God is
all sovereign, and all Powerful could not accept that Satan actually offered
Jesus this world if only He should bow before him. Neither will they believe
that Jesus came to redeem human race. If God is responsible for 9/11,
Tsunami and those diseases inflicted upon humanity, then why does He heal
them when they call to Him for help?

God told the world that His enemy is the one that come to kill, steal and
destroy; but great theologians totally disbelieve in God. God is sovereign,
so they say.No wonder they do not believe in the words of Jesus. The debate
still rages on; on the whys God allow this-and- that to happen.

If I tell you earthly things and you cannot believe in Me, how to tell you
heavenly things?

The foolishness of God is wiser than man. Man has attempt thoughts like an
Almighty fellow, who can do all things at wish, without honor and
righteousness. Up to this day, debates about whether did God really, and
truthfully turn over the control of this Earth to Adam.

Can God snatch it back from the hands of the devil, since man relinquishes
control to him?

Jesus came to redeem. If God can do through any other ways, why became a
man, and died for man, and go through the process so laborious and
difficult? Why asked His servants to proclaim it?

The battle is, whether you believe in Him, or other things.

The devil, being the god of this world has every right to present his views
and imposed on his subjects.However, God respect all beings and will not
impose anything, not unless He has absolute control.

The good news that must reach you is that you need not to be bound. You can
be free. You can be healed. It is not a vain hope, but a reality. You do not
need to die hopelessly with wasted sicknesses. You do not need to be
condemned.

Jesus made an open triumph over the devils, showing to the world that He had
seize the powers of darkness and openly defeat them. Jesus had clipped the
wings of the devils.

Jesus Christ is now the only Saviour and Lord for this world.

Jesus gave an open-ended invitations very few great scholars could accept
it. This is:

He that is willing to drink the waters of life let him/her come.

If you exercise that Sovereign right that is inherent in man, by refusing
the wiles of the devils, and willingly come to Lord Jesus, He will save you.

Jesus shall surely deliver you.

Just call on Him today.



Frankie Lee

Merry Christmas

21-12-06





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