----- Original Message ----- From: Regina Akers

Question: Good morning, Holy Spirit. What would you like to share with us
regarding vibrational levels?

Answer: First of all, I want to tell you all that you are doing a great job
of waking yourself up. This is important for you to know. You are waking
yourself up. I cannot wake you up. <<

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Hi all,

We had discussed this in an ACIM study group, and students asked why it is
that so much material out there attributed to Holy Spirit seems consistently
stripped of mentioning Jesus Christ, the manifestation of the Holy Spirit,
in charge of the Atonement and of time; And even further, often proclaims
what he teaches not at all in the Course in Miracles.

Does anyone know why that is? How do you reconcile diametrically opposed
statements, if you think this can be done? TIA!

A literal reading of the Course reveals that:

a) So He [God} thought, "My Children sleep, and must be awakened."

b) You cannot wake yourself. But you can LET yourself be wakened

c) I will awaken you as surely as I awakened myself, for I awoke FOR you.

On Apr 15, 7:51 am, "maz" rocketmail.com> wrote:

The opening paragraph - this is from someone's ACIM
group meeting? Is someone 'channeling' the HS?

group meeting? Is someone 'channeling' the HS?<<

Yes. I asked if she is aware that by claiming the material
is of the Holy Spirit she also claims infallibility.

Here's oart two of our exchange:
First her answer, then my reply.

group meeting? Is someone 'channeling' the HS?<

Yes. Here's our further exchange of late:

Hi all,

Hi Mike,

here's an excerpt that the scribe of NTI just sent,
in asnwer to our discussion. It might help to understand
why there is so little mentioning of Jesus. He is said
to have departed from the world. pinch me!
Anyway, we are all awakening Sons of God using our
minds to embrace the celestial-speedup, right? :-)

namazt

On Apr 15, 7:44 am, "maz" rocketmail.com> wrote:

Ha, i received an answer today, lucky me :-)

claiming what you scribe is given by the Holy Spirit also entails the
claim of infallibility.

There is no such thing as infallibility when dealing with symbols,
because symbols can be understood differently. Yes, both NTI and ACIM
are infallibile when one understands them with the Holy Spirit, but
both are perfectly fallible when understood with ego. And both can be
read and understood with ego. Since that is true, to say either book
is infallible would be an error.

The true answer is always within. One must read any book with the
inner guide. When this is done, all argument evetually disappears.
All symbols, which may have seemed different, are seen to speak the
same.

NTI: > The paths given may seem to be individualized and the experiences may
seem

george:

OK. to me it does seem a bit confused about separeteness
and individuality. The Course steates to be a highly individualized
curriculum. The above refutes that. Odd! Did you spend 10 years
in hospice situations, or play on stage and produce miracle radio
like I was guided to? If not, why not? Because you have a
different part in the Atonement, maybe?

is more. Thanks for posting that.<<

my (maz's) thoughts on this:

Ideas are not symbols, as i.e. the words we use
to communicate them. They are either true or false, i think.
God's Ideas are infallible, true and indisputable, although
they utilize symbols.

If one claims the ideas are from Holy Spirit, and agrees
the Holy Spirit is infallible, the ideas are covered by the claim.

This in confused. Only because I misunderstand an idea
with ego does not make the idea fallible. Duh!

"maz" rocketmail.com> wrote in news:4804a4c4$0$25467$9a622dc7
@news.kpnplanet.nl:

My guess is that it's an attempt to trump ACIM, by going to Jesus' boss, so
to speak. Of course by getting the Holy Spirit supposedly in the game of
amending ACIM it pretty well has him as the manifestation of Jesus, not the
other way around. Certainly, it raises the question of why you needed Jesus
at all in the first place.