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Author: Tera Free NwsTera Free Nws Date: Aug 5, 2007 20:21
On Aug 5, 6:50 pm, "Katie" yahoo.com> wrote:> "maz" rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:koadnQkTM-DtcyjbnZ2dnUVZ8v3inZ2d@fiberworld.nl...
>>>>> Re: Why Religious Belief Should Be Abandoned - Part 1
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>> Yeah, that's like saying we should abandon our
>> healthy sex lives because some whackos indulge
>> in cross dressing perversity. rotfl!
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> No, actually, it's not.
Actually it is.
~The Official Cult Line of The Cult of On Line Cross-Dressers, or how
Katie Dean explains what she does on line to the good people of
Durham, North Carolina.
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Author: NancyNancy Date: Aug 5, 2007 23:21
On 5-Aug-2007, Chuck yahoo.com> wrote:
> As far as I'm concerned, this is really simple. Helen did not take
> responsibility for the work in her lifetime as far as I can see. She
> allowed it to be spread, and failed to take responsibility...
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Author: ChuckChuck Date: Aug 6, 2007 01:57
On Aug 6, 2:21 am, "Nancy" wrote:
> On 5-Aug-2007, Chuck yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> As far as I'm concerned, this is really simple. Helen did not take
>> responsibility for the work in her lifetime as far as I can see. She
>> allowed it to be spread, and failed to take responsibility for this
>> action as well. I don't care what her excuses were. I don't expect to
>> get away with this kind of behavior. To expect me to allow someone
>> else to get away with this kind of behavior is inconsistent with my
>> expectations of myself and everyone else I deal with. If someone wants
>> to claim they channel someone I recognize (or not), fine. I expect
>> them to be responsible for what they do with what they channel. And
>> the test of that, for me, is being able to explain what the meaning is
>> and to be able to live by what they channel. If they can't do that,
>> it's preaching with another layer of excuse, as far as I'm concerned.
>> Cable is filled with preachers, and I don't pay much attention to them ...
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:01
Deborah noemail.com> wrote in
news:uiscb3h6h93hiq4kev36gvhsr2vvl2fihl@4ax.com:
> Helen's most
> memorable statement for me was when she said "I KNOW the course is
> true... but I don't BELIEVE it." That is very real for me. And yet,
> when you actually look at how she lived her life, I think she was too
> hard on herself. She did a lot of good for a lot of people.
>
What's curious about this is why Chuck is now suddenly dumping on Helen--I
get the feeling he's been saving it up. Clearly, he deeply resents the
whole channeling thing, like Kaite. Unlike Katie, he isn't telling us the
real reason why; his stated reasons are so transparently bogus that they
cannot possibly be motivating him. What bit him, when, and why? Chuck won't
tell us, just as he's never said why he was hanging out on Cosmic Fool in
the first place.
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Author: ChuckChuck Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:23
On Aug 5, 8:46 pm, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:>> As far as I'm concerned, this is really simple. Helen did not take
>> responsibility for the work in her lifetime as far as I can see.
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> You don't see very far.
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>> She allowed it to be spread, and failed to take responsibility for this
>> action as well.
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> The copyright wasn't taking responsibility? The publication of the first
> edition of the Blue Book wasn't taking responsibility?
I defined what I consider taking responsibiliity. She didn't. That you
don't agree isn't my problem.
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Author: mazmaz Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:27
> As far as I'm concerned, this is really simple. Helen did not take
> responsibility for the work in her lifetime as far as I can see.
>>You don't see very far.
As far as we know, wasn't it Dr B.'s request for a "better way"
to which Dr H. committed to assist finding "this other way"?
Singling Dr H. out, with regard to how the Message has or
hasn't been processed by the scribes, is somewhat like judging
a picture by its frame, or a book by its cover, to my mind.
namazt
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Author: mazmaz Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:28
>> Helen's most
>> memorable statement for me was when she said "I KNOW the course is
>> true... but I don't BELIEVE it."
Wasn't that "...but I don't WANT it." ?
namazt
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Author: mazmaz Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:34
>>Sure, every act of ignorance, evil, denial, stupidity, bigotry,
intolerance, selfishness, etc. depending on the focus all have a
matter of goodwill in common. <<
So tell us, what is your goodwill while performing
and endorsing such acts? Inquiring minds would like
to know.
namazt
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:47
>>> She allowed it to be spread, and failed to take responsibility for
>>> this action as well.
>>
>> The copyright wasn't taking responsibility? The publication of the
>> first edition of the Blue Book wasn't taking responsibility?
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> I defined what I consider taking responsibiliity. She didn't. That you
> don't agree isn't my problem.
No, that you are babbling like a lunatic is *your* problem. Copyrighting
something and seeing to its publication is not passively "allowing it to
be spread", but actively spreading. You are failing to make even minimal
sense.
> I take responsibility for what I do. If I've broken some law, call the
> authorities. If you've been offended by what I do, tough shit.
If you don't like me calling you on your bigotry and unreason, tough
shit.
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Author: ChuckChuck Date: Aug 6, 2007 02:49
On Aug 6, 5:34 am, "maz" rocketmail.com> wrote:>>>Sure, every act of ignorance, evil, denial, stupidity, bigotry,
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> intolerance, selfishness, etc. depending on the focus all have a
> matter of goodwill in common. <<
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> So tell us, what is your goodwill while performing
> and endorsing such acts? Inquiring minds would like
> to know.
>
> namazté
I have no interest in defending or endorsing such acts. You seem to
desire defending religion in this manner. Anything can be defended in
the same manner as you defend religion. If you don't believe it, just
change your mind and be a good coursie.
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