> On Apr 27, 9:28 am, Mike
yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Apr 27, 1:01 am, Gene Ward Smith
chewbacca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>> From the description page:
>>
>>> "Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life
>>> you
>>> will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will
>>> love
>>> you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"
>>
>>> "There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths
>>> to
>>> follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for
>>> Truth.
>>> You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The
>>> Search."
>>
>>> This is not someone who has had deep spiritual experiences in
>>> connection
>>> with ACIM. It is someone dealing with the authority problem in his own
>>> way.
>>> The claim Wayne was somehow teaching ACIM is ludicrous.
>>
>> I agree with you that Wayne does not teach ACIM.
>>
>> In trying to understand eots I have read as much as I can
>> about Advaita Vedanta and Nisargadattta Maharaj in an
>> attempt to understand the way the terms 'no thing',
>> 'nothing' and 'nothingness' are used.
>
> Wayne is coming from Neo-Advaita thought and tradition. Call Neo-
> Advaitaists the new kids on the block, and consider Neo-Advaita
> apparently has the same relationship to traditional Advaita, as
> blissninnies course students have to authentic course students.
>
> If you wish a detailed critic of Wayne and Eots bullshit, then the
> place to look is Traditional Advaita's critiques of the glaring
> elementary errors of Neo-Advaita thought. There are several.
>
> 1) Is the tendency for Neo-Advaita to reject right thought and right
> action for a nihilistic view of the world.
>
> We see this in Wayne and Ellen and Eots proponents who constantly
> claim they can do any dirty, freakn' thing to their brother and be "at
> peace."
>
> 2) Constant mistaking of lower level spiritual experience as the
> highest level of spiritual experience while claiming enlightenment and
> spiritual authority for these lower level experiences.
>
> We see this with Wayne and Eots proponents and Ellen --who constantly
> crow about their "spiritual experience, with the implication that the
> experience in and of itself demonstrate enlightenment and spiritual
> authority, when it means nothing more in non dual, traditional Advaita
> than the devotee has had an experience.
>
> 3) End of the Search --Is not unique to Eots (End of the Search) but a
> defining belief of Neo Advaita thought, NOT shared by Traditional
> Advaita. In other words, stopping thought, ridding the mine of
> "concepts," and somehow finding authentic self beyond concepts is NOT
> the end of the search according to Traditional Advaita but just the
> beginning.
>
> The problem with Wayne and Ellen and Debs is they really don't know
> that much about either A Course in Miracles or non dual thought.
> Wayne's notion of Advaita and non duality would likely be completely
> refuted by a Traditional Advaita proponent. But his Neo-Advaita
> bullshit is useful for fucking over course students.
>
> Ellen? Hell, she wouldn't know Neo-Advaita from Traditional Advaita
> and Buddhism. She could care less, and thinks her dumb hodge podge of
> beliefs is equal to the wisdom of ages. Ellen's main concern is
> convincing people down the spiritual food chain, that she is somehow
> "spiritual."
>
> Wayne does not teach ACIM. He teaches Wayne.
>
Don't speaky for me Mr. Thinky.
