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Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Gene Ward Smith
Date: Apr 26, 2008 23:01

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EOTS/

From the description page:

"Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life you
will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will love
you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"

"There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths to
follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for Truth.
You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The Search."

This is not someone who has had deep spiritual experiences in connection
with ACIM. It is someone dealing with the authority problem in his own way.
The claim Wayne was somehow teaching ACIM is ludicrous.
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Deborah
Date: Apr 26, 2008 23:30

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:01:29 GMT, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org>
wrote:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EOTS/
>
>From the description page:
>
>"Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life you
>will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will love
>you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"
>
>"There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths to
>follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for Truth.
>You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The Search."
>
>This is not someone who has had deep spiritual experiences in connection
>with ACIM. It is someone dealing with the authority problem in his own way.
>The claim Wayne was somehow teaching ACIM is ludicrous.

Yeah, and we all know what "intimacy" Wayne had on offer as a
substitute for God...
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Mike
Date: Apr 27, 2008 07:28

On Apr 27, 1:01 am, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EOTS/
>
> From the description page:
>
> "Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life you
> will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will love
> you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"
>
> "There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths to
> follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for Truth.
> You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The Search."
>
> This is not someone who has had deep spiritual experiences in connection
> with ACIM. It is someone dealing with the authority problem in his own way.
> The claim Wayne was somehow teaching ACIM is ludicrous.

I agree with you that Wayne does not teach ACIM.
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Jimbo
Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:06

"Mike" wrote ...

I agree with you that Wayne does not teach ACIM.

In trying to understand eots I have read as much as I can
about Advaita Vedanta and Nisargadattta Maharaj in an
attempt to understand the way the terms 'no thing',
'nothing' and 'nothingness' are used. I did not go to the
trouble of rereading the Upanishads, however.
Hinduism is prominent in eots from as far as I can tell.
Buddhism less so.
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Gene Ward Smith
Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:36

"Jimbo" comcast.net> wrote in
news:HuSdnRN1ZrjkOYnVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com:
> When we move beyond the association of the ego, we ARE in a Healed state of
> Being....
> the "Idea" has manifested Itself, and removes any further need of HS or any
> "Idea of Healing".

Not according to ACIM.
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Mike
Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:52

On Apr 27, 11:06 am, "Jimbo" comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I have no idea what Wayne teaches, so i can't go there. But as far as the
> parallels of ACIM and eastern teachings...
> i see much more than coincidental similarities.

I was basically concerned with Advaita philosophy, how
eots derives in large part from it and how that particular
application does not seem, to me, to be compatible with
the Course.
> Probably..., the most of which would be what the Course calls the Holy
> Spirit.
> Although the eastern teachings do not use this particular word to express a
> more Whole awareness,
> ACIM does use...
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Author: Reality Scan
Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:59

On Apr 27, 9:28 am, Mike yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 1:01 am, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:
>
>
>> From the description page:
>
>> "Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life you
>> will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will love
>> you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"
>
>> "There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths to
>> follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for Truth.
>> You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The Search."
>
>> This is not someone who has had deep spiritual experiences in connection
>> with ACIM. It is someone dealing with the authority problem in his own way.
>> The claim Wayne was somehow teaching ACIM is ludicrous.
>
> I agree with you that Wayne does not teach ACIM. ...
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Jimbo
Date: Apr 27, 2008 10:04

"Mike" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6d0af0c0-03c1-4222-96ac-15e3bf5615d9@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 27, 11:06 am, "Jimbo" comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I have no idea what Wayne teaches, so i can't go there. But as far as the
> parallels of ACIM and eastern teachings...
> i see much more than coincidental similarities.

I was basically concerned with Advaita philosophy, how
eots derives in large part from it and how that particular
application does not seem, to me, to be compatible with
the Course.
> Probably..., the most of which would be what the Course calls the Holy
> Spirit.
> Although the eastern teachings do not use this particular word to express
> a
> more Whole awareness,
> ACIM does use...
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Lotus_Bloom
Date: Apr 27, 2008 10:06

"Reality Scan" netzero.com> wrote in message
news:2e59f3b8-0255-4944-bce0-999f263aabd3@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 27, 9:28 am, Mike yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 27, 1:01 am, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From the description page:
>>
>>> "Maybe your thinking is that if you can't get any real intimacy in life
>>> you
>>> will create a god or savior who you can be intimate with and who will
>>> love
>>> you. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny too?"
>>
>>> "There is no way to God/Truth and all spiritual paths are "ways", paths
>>> to
>>> follow, rules to obey. Truth/God is Here, one need not search for
>>> Truth.
>>> You are That which you are searching for. This is the End Of The ...
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Re: Wayne's deeply spiritual experieces         


Author: Jimbo
Date: Apr 27, 2008 10:10

"Gene Ward Smith" wrote ...
> "Jimbo" comcast.net> wrote in
> news:HuSdnRN1ZrjkOYnVnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> When we move beyond the association of the ego, we ARE in a Healed state
>> of
>> Being....
>> the "Idea" has manifested Itself, and removes any further need of HS or
>> any
>> "Idea of Healing".
>
> Not according to ACIM.
>

Hi Gene,

I can easily agree... that we precieve differently.... :)
Hope all is well,
Jim
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