This place is not the best advert for ACIM is it? But in a way it reveals
all the specialness and attacks and defences that ACIM talks about in
detail - the problem is few people ever seem to step off the battleground -
or they think they have stepped off by resorting to a purely conceptual
'experience' (if such a thing is possible).

Katie you do the same thing too - but at least you're not pretending that
you think ACIM will lead you out of the problem - in fact you pretty
accurately build a case for the idea that ACIM only fosters more problems
rather than any real solutions............... (which is always going to be
hard for an ego attached to that book to grasp).

Stale mate huh?

"Katie" wrote....................................

Deborah: "You are a liar."

Mike: " You are a cold, incredibly vicious person."

Correct! These are all qualities required of and fostered by ACIM.
You're both doing very well!!