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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Mar 23, 2008 23:27
We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having the
Son created prior in order of cause and effect to the Holy Spirit
would also be better. This all make sense to me--anyone else?
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Author: JamesJames Date: Mar 24, 2008 00:36
Gene desperate for somebody to talk to him.
Hi Gene.
"Gene Ward Smith" chewbacca.org> wrote in message
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Author: rainorshinerainorshine Date: Mar 24, 2008 00:44
I appreciate Gene's efforts to raise this issue (and others) for
consideration. I look forward to some fruitful responses.
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: Mar 24, 2008 00:59
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:27:49 GMT, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org>
wrote:
>We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
>Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
>perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
>believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
>
>A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
>will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
>sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
>maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
>outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having the
>Son created prior in order of cause and effect to the Holy Spirit
>would also be better. This all make sense to me--anyone else?
I have been thinking about how:
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Author: MikeRyderMikeRyder Date: Mar 24, 2008 02:06
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:27:49 GMT, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org>
wrote:
>We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
>Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
>perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
>believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
How about this. Your prefection includes your perceived imperfection
in the world.
>
>A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
>will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
>sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
>maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
>outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having the
>Son created prior in order of cause and effect to the Holy Spirit
>would also be better. This all make sense to me--anyone else?
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Author: PieterPieter Date: Mar 24, 2008 04:25
"Gene Ward Smith" chewbacca.org> schreef in bericht
news:Xns9A6AEE83A6D9Dgenewardsmithsbcglob@207.115.17.102...
> We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
> Spirit, of believing in error.
"We are told . . ." : would you be so kind as
to specify where and how this is told?
Thanks in advance!
(To call "believing in error" a "capacity"
suggests it is something positive; an extra,
and then saying Father and Holy Spirit lack
this capacity suggests there is a lack in Them.)
> We are also told that the Son is a
> perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
> believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
Isn't this trying to prove that
the impossible DID happen?
Belief in error is but dreaming.
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Author: CarrieCarrie Date: Mar 24, 2008 08:32
"Gene Ward Smith" chewbacca.org> wrote in message
news:Xns9A6AEE83A6D9Dgenewardsmithsbcglob@207.115.17.102...> We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
> Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
> perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
> believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
>
> A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
> will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
> sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
> maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
> outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having
> the
> Son created prior in order of cause and...
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Author: CarrieCarrie Date: Mar 24, 2008 08:32
> Gene desperate for somebody to talk to him.
>
> Hi Gene.
Gene, once again, trying to have "real" course discussion on this
newsgroup?
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> "Gene Ward Smith" chewbacca.org> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A6AEE83A6D9Dgenewardsmithsbcglob@207.115.17.102...>> We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: Mar 24, 2008 09:03
On Mar 24, 1:27 am, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org> wrote:> We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
> Spirit, of believing in error. We are also told that the Son is a
> perfect creation. This really only makes sense if the ability to
> believe in error is a part of the Son's perfection. Yet how can this be?
>
> A perfect outcome of all things is sure. We are told that God's will
> will be done. The outcome is a part of God's eternal world, but the
> sin and pain of separation is not. If God creates His Son with the
> maximum of creative freedom, and if doing this leads to the best
> outcome, it becomes understandable. On this view, the outcome of having the
> Son created prior in order of cause and effect to the Holy Spirit
> would also be better. This all...
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Mar 24, 2008 10:13
Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote in
news:fvmeu3p9cemrprulobvtdlmr9obc912bvf@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:27:49 GMT, Gene Ward Smith chewbacca.org>
> wrote:
> >>We are told that the Son has the capacity, lacking in Father and Holy
>>Spirit, of believing in error. We are also...
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