Carrie,
" If you move to another country where you think it's nicer, better,
friendlier, prettier, etc than where you left, before too long you
will be seeing it the same way you did the place you left."
This is nothing of what I stated.
Canada is beautiful, so is Newport.
And I had made a decision to move to Canada, not because the USA is ugly.
I can state, Carrie, that Newport is wonderful, and that doesn't discount
SanFrancisco Bay.
My choices for living in certain places are not to denigrate the United
States. I simply am honest in my reflection as to how the USA, and the
federal government, has chosen to function in the world.
And, sometimes, Carrie, you find you are living somewhere unexpected, due to
intuitive response to the world, not due to foolish notions. Tolle moved to
California because he was told that is where he needed to be, and it wasn't
based upon he felt injustice where he was.
And I do not feel that "everywhere we go we bring ourselves." Everywhere we
are willing to go, based upon intuitive Guidance, changes us from what we
were yesterday, to what we can be Now. People who tend to cling to where
they are, for security, as example, never really know what they could do or
be by making a choice to follow that Thought that came to mind. Fear and a
certain level of comfort, keeps them from moving to another region, changing
jobs, and on.
And I do find Canada has beauty unparalleled. And that's just the way it is.
And no, I don't make choices in life based upon where I see a moose,
although it was a very happy experience, and a wonderful memory.
Jenny
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"Carrie"
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On May 15, 10:09 am, "Jeanette" verizon.net> wrote:> Hi Deborah,
>
> "Just please don't elect any more warmongering presidents who will
> bankrupt the US economy with needless wars."
>
> Came to introduce Oprah's further offerings, as the Tolle classes have
> been
> enjoyed by over a million, and started reading your posts.
>
> First, and foremost, the difference in Canada and the price of gas is I
> loved it there. The beauty of Canada unparalleled. And as you might not
> know
> I was well prepared to move there, and was about to leave for Canada to
> see
> Marlo, and finally purchase 10 or so acres when God had other plans for an
> Angel of a man.
>
> I found the rush hours around Toronto no different than Boston or
> Philadelphia. Yet, once again, the attitude and beauty of Canada just
> remarkable.
>
> And interestingly enough as to this country, and your note above, I would
> agree. My daughter now in France, my son considering Northern Germany, my
> niece definitely going to emigrate, and I am truly thinking of dual
> residences in France and US.
>
> As the Course would teach it isn't where you live, I suppose, but how you
> think about where you live. I do not feel supporting what is going on here
> to be in anyone's best interests, however.
>
> As for war. I know several individuals who have/had children in Iraq.
> Their
> view of the military is different than our own. They thrive with the
> concept.
>
> Anyway, I'll reintroduce the original topic I came here for in a short
> while. I do want to emphasize to you how much I loved Canada, saw my first
> Moose! how lovely she was, and so enjoyed, most especially, my visits to
> Ottawa, and then spent 5 minutes in Quebec. :-)
>
> The ice scuptures upon mountains so glorious! And the people, so warm, and
> friendly, and the personal freedoms beyond what I feel here on a daily
> basis. I was there for every season, and all were spectcular.
>
> I feel it a privilege to have spent time in Canada, and know my dear Marlo
> is venturing on, along with visiting with me from time to time. My seeming
> "loss" translated to an enrichment of my life I never deemed further
> possible.
>
> Jenny
>
Maybe you haven't been looking in the right places in the USA
Where I live a moose walked right down the middle of the street one
morning. And I don't really live all THAT "far out" in the country and
the woods.
As to people being warm and friendly, isn't that based on what one
EXPECTS them to be?
You know, like the course lesson that says "and which I choose to
see I will behold".
If you move to another country where you think it's nicer, better,
friendlier, prettier, etc than where you left, before too long you
will be seeing it the same way you did the place you left.
Everywhere "we" go we bring ourselves.
> *****
>
> "Deborah"
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>
>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 00:28:24 -0700, MikeRyder
nospam.com> wrote:>
>> John:
>>>>>>You have a very elementary understanding of economics. Gas pump
>>>>>>prices
>>>>>>is only an indicator, and what's indicated by the rapidly rising
>>>>>>prices is $200 per barrel oil. This is largely because the US has
>>>>>>been
>>>>>>printing paper money to finance its military operations to the point
>>>>>>that hardly anyone outside the US wants highly inflated US dollars.
>
>>>>>>This has worked in the past because the dollar is the default
>>>>>>currency
>>>>>>to buy oil, and other countries finance our debt by buying T bills.
>>>>>>When creditor nations stop buy US debt which is what is happening
>>>>>>now,
>>>>>>the result be a hyperinflationary spiral, which most likely will
>>>>>>result in war to enforce hegemony of the dollar and the Western
>>>>>>Banking System.
>
>>>>>>On top of economic and politics, one also sees massive and undeniable
>>>>>>climate and earth changes and there is much evidence that the
>>>>>>government and elites of the world are preparing for massive,
>>>>>>cataclysmic change and continuity of their power through this change.
>>>>>>Its not exactly like people conversant in metaphysics should be
>>>>>>unfamiliar with the Edgar Cayce predictions of earth changes and a
>>>>>>pole shift, or that course students shouldn't be aware of the world
>>>>>>crisis the author alludes to in the Course text.
>
>>>>>>What this means, is once the system starts falling apart is will most
>>>>>>likely fall apart rapidly. If someone is dependent on money,
>>>>>>paychecks, pensions, investments or saving for substance, rather than
>>>>>>self-sufficient living outside the system then basic living and even
>>>>>>survival will become increasingly difficult.
>
>>>>>>I suspect will will all know by the end of summer and early fall,
>>>>>>which way the wind blows.
>
>> Mke:
>>>>>There are other things she doesnt understand as well. The spike in oil
>>>>>prices causing an increase for gas at the pump is only the tip of the
>>>>>iceberg. High gas prices are causing huge price increases at the
>>>>>grocery store and other retail outlets. Plus, the U.S. is an
>>>>>automobile society far more than other nations. People live in the
>>>>>suburbs and drive long commutes to and from work. And the car of
>>>>>choice, over the last many years, has been the gas guzzling SUV which
>>>>>is falling out of favor so fast that these vehicles, like sub prime
>>>>>mortgage homes, are not worth what the consumer owes on them. As the
>>>>>price of oil continues to go up, at some point the dominos are all
>>>>>going to fall.
>
>> Me:
>>>>If you think the commutes and vehicles of choice are any different in
>>>>Canada you obviously haven't been here.
>
>>>>Deborah (BC)
>
>> Mike:
>>>I didnt say things are different in Canada. What I said was that the
>>>downside of the oil price spikes is going to have a logical, serious
>>>and probably unavoidable domino effect. If it also happens in Canada,
>>>as well as in the European Union, so much the worse. Traditional
>>>standards of living stand the potential of tanking.
>
>> Maybe that's a good thing. Most of the additional price per litre of
>> gas in Canada (viz a viz the price of gas in the USA) is taxes, and
>> in BC, we have a brand new tax that has raised the price per litre yet
>> again. It's a carbon tax. First one in Canada. Designed to
>> discourage us from consuming so much gas. We have plenty of
>> alternatives - carpooling, public transit of various kinds, riding
>> bicycles...
>
>> There's probably not a cheaper or cleaner way to heat our homes in BC
>> than hydro, and hydro is plentiful here. Most of it is produced by
>> hydro dams, not by coal powered plants. There is no good excuse for
>> people in BC heatiing their homes with oil or gas.
>
>> We had sent a very strong message to our government via the polls
>> that climate change was a major concern of ours, and it came back to
>> bite us. For all the rhetoric, Canadians weren't prepared to give up
>> their comforts. And now we'll just bloody well have to make some
>> adjustments.
>
>> Like I said, maybe it's a good thing.
>
>> More to the point, though, you didn't read the bit I wrote about how
>> the world will shore up the US economy if it does tank, just as the US
>> shored up the Mexican economy when it tanked years ago. The world is
>> not going to let the US drag it down if the US stands on the brink of
>> insolvency. We all know it is a global economy these days.
>
>> Just please don't elect any more warmongering presidents who will
>> bankrupt the US economy with needless wars.
>
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