On May 6, 12:30 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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>>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>>>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>>>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
>>>>>> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
>>>>>> natural state of Mind.
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>>>>> - The Course explicitly states
>>>>> that only what is raised to our
>>>>> awareness can be dispelled
>>>>> (which is healing of the mind):
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>>>>> "You may wonder why it is so crucial that you look upon
>>>>> your hatred, and realize its full extent. And you may think
>>>>> that it would be easy enough for the Holy Spirit to show it
>>>>> to you, and dispel it WITHOUT the need for you to raise
>>>>> it to awareness yourself."
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>>>> Kindda of vague here. "What," doesn't even deserve a proper noun.
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>>> "Hatred" imo includes anything of the ego.
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>>>> So how is hatred healed, if not the foundational thoughts of hatred at
>>>> the causal level?
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>>> Without letting the hatred be healed
>>> one is aware of, healing cannot take
>>> place at all. It is one's willingness to
>>> be healed, which implies letting go of
>>> hatred, that is a necessary condition
>>> for being healed (- by the Holy Spirit,
>>> Who is outside of the ego thought system).
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>>If you can let go of hatred on your own --then clearly you don't need
>>the Holy Spirit.
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>>Nor does letting go of hatred mean you are relinquishing a belief in
>>lack, which means uncorrected hatred will occur again and again as a
>>manifestation of the belief in lack and lack of love.
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> I wonder how conscious one must be of the Holy Spirit qua Holy Spirit
> for the Holy Spirit to perform the function of correction? Lots of
> non-religious people have had "ephiphanies", and I can't help thinking
> about the statement in the course that the Holy Spirit is simply our
> own right mind. I would not want to deprive anyone of their own
> internal guide just because they didn't call it the Holy Spirit.
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> Deborah (BC)
Well this is refreshing. :)