Re: The Holy Spirit's killfile         


Author: Deborah
Date: May 6, 2008 12:30

On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>> "Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:84e4cff1-2d54-4ba9-af1f-30c04f1d11a2@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
>>>> "Reality Scan" gmail.com> schreef in
>>>> berichtnews:0386092d-88ac-4c40-972b-10db3e822d34@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
>>>>> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
>>>>> natural state of Mind.
>>
>>>> - The Course explicitly states
>>>> that only what is raised to our
>>>> awareness can be dispelled
>>>> (which is healing of the mind):
>>
>>>> "You may wonder why it is so crucial that you look upon
>>>> your hatred, and realize its full extent. And you may think
>>>> that it would be easy enough for the Holy Spirit to show it
>>>> to you, and dispel it WITHOUT the need for you to raise
>>>> it to awareness yourself."
>>
>>> Kindda of vague here. "What," doesn't even deserve a proper noun.
>>
>> "Hatred" imo includes anything of the ego.
>>
>>> So how is hatred healed, if not the foundational thoughts of hatred at
>>> the causal level?
>>
>> Without letting the hatred be healed
>> one is aware of, healing cannot take
>> place at all. It is one's willingness to
>> be healed, which implies letting go of
>> hatred, that is a necessary condition
>> for being healed (- by the Holy Spirit,
>> Who is outside of the ego thought system).
>
>If you can let go of hatred on your own --then clearly you don't need
>the Holy Spirit.
>
>Nor does letting go of hatred mean you are relinquishing a belief in
>lack, which means uncorrected hatred will occur again and again as a
>manifestation of the belief in lack and lack of love.

I wonder how conscious one must be of the Holy Spirit qua Holy Spirit
for the Holy Spirit to perform the function of correction? Lots of
non-religious people have had "ephiphanies", and I can't help thinking
about the statement in the course that the Holy Spirit is simply our
own right mind. I would not want to deprive anyone of their own
internal guide just because they didn't call it the Holy Spirit.

Deborah (BC)
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