On May 5, 11:25Â am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 5, 11:40 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>> "Deborah"
pumpetypump.com> schreef in berichtnews:1cbs14d5fn29s2nf4vnq13cmh1jbhhbhdj@4ax.com...
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>>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:36:49 +0200, "Pieter"
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>>>>"Gene" chewbacca.org> schreef in bericht
>>>>news:Xns9A94824BE7E9Egenewardsmithsbcglob@207.115.17.102...
>>>>> The spiritual eye literally CANNOT SEE error, and merely
>>>>> looks for Atonement.
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>>>>> Atonement is for all, because it is the way to UNDO the
>>>>> belief that ANYTHING is for you ALONE. To forgive is to
>>>>> OVERLOOK. Look, then, BEYOND error, and do not let your
>>>>> perception rest UPON it, for you will believe what your
>>>>> perception HOLDS. Accept as true only what your brother IS,
>>>>> if you would know yourself.
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>>>>> The ego has a plan of forgiveness, because you are ASKING for
>>>>> one, but not of the right teacher. The EGO'S plan, of course,
>>>>> MAKES NO SENSE and WILL NOT WORK. By following it, you will
>>>>> merely place yourself in an impossible situation, to which
>>>>> the ego ALWAYS leads you. Its plan is to have you SEE ERROR
>>>>> CLEARLY FIRST, and THEN overlook it. But how CAN you overlook
>>>>> what you have made real? By seeing it clearly, you HAVE made
>>>>> it real, and CANNOT overlook it.
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>>>>Fresh air.
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>>> Trouble is, if you smelled something putrid in the atmosphere here,
>>> then you weren't applying the Holy Spirit's killfile. Â Don't get me
>>> wrong, I'm not suggesting it's easy to do.
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>> The point is: when I smell "something putrid
>> in the atmosphere here", then it is my own
>> ego, which I am busy to relinquish but did
>> not yet relinquish completely, that is irritated
>> by it. With the help of the Holy Spirit I can
>> relinquish this part of it, which means further
>> healing of my mind. The Holy Spirit can
>> remove from me only what I consciously
>> give to Him.
>> I agree that it's not always easy to do.
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>>> Deborah (BC)
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> Awe geez. Talk about intellectualizing course teachings!
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> The course is not asking you to eat a turd mistakenly placed on your
> dinner plate at a restaurant.
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> If you are saying the course is teaching you to eat the turd, perhaps
> its only your faulty ego thinking which can't get a handle around
> basic course concepts which is convincing you to eat the turd.
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> Errors imply correction. Atonement or undoing, or the undoing of
> mental error is the correction though the miracle.
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> The dumb notion that mental errors are somehow corrected by
> overlooking errors, assumes first that a mind itself in error can
> recognize error, and then a mind in error can decide by its own effort
> to make what it actively believes "not real."
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> There is no reason to believe the healed or healing mind does not
> smell putrid, because the course tells us as the mind is healed it
> becomes increasing less tolerant and not LESS tolerant of errors.
> Moreover the author tells us to join his crusade to correct errors in
> ourselves and others.
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> So the question is how are errors which are always errors of thought --
> corrected?
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> Moreover, Atonement is collective and you do not see nor understand
> the larger picture. Its might seem to your ego reasoning that you can
> overlook putrid posting like mocking the Holy Spirit, while the larger
> picture may very well consider how such posting effects other brother
> more vulnerable you to written words.
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> So you don't know. In the process such dumb, highly abstract
> reasoning, out of full context is making a practical course, highly
> impractical, and little more than wishful thinking that if I close my
> eyes to error, error will go away.- Hide quoted text -
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Hi John. I think we are in choice here again. Have you been following
what I've been saying in other threads that it is all a choice in how
something is percieved or do you think I'm crazy and that reality IS
reality and there is no choice? Either way is okay, many people do
think I am nuts to think so far out there but I believe it is exactly
what ACIM teaches and it has made me a man I like better. I'll discuss
my views with you if you want.