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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: May 6, 2008 11:46
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:58:01 -0700 (PDT), george
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>If I can not percieve with the Holy Spirits perception. Why are there
>two ways of seeing everything? The egos way, that the world IS a
>horrible place and what is the way I've been choosing instead that the
>world is perfect, and sinless and only for my benefit?
I don't think the ego necessarily sees the world as "a horrible
place". That wouldn't jive with it's objective of getting us to play
a game of "seek but do not find". We are always playing that game...
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: May 6, 2008 12:01
On May 6, 12:58 pm, george hotmail.com> wrote:> On May 6, 10:42 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On May 6, 11:52 am, george hotmail.com> wrote:>
>>> On May 6, 1:53 am, Reality Scan gmail.com> wrote:>
>>>> On May 6, 3:19 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>>> So you don't know. In the process such dumb, highly abstract
>>>>>> reasoning, out of full context is making a practical course, highly
>>>>>> impractical, and little more than wishful thinking that if I close my
>>>>>> eyes to error, error will go away.
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>>>>> Are you sure your thinking here is
>>>>> in line with the above quote? It said:
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>>>>> "To forgive is to ...
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: May 6, 2008 12:09
On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a
>>>> condition of perception while largely unaware perception is not the
>>>> natural state of Mind.
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>>> - The Course explicitly states ...
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Author: DeborahDeborah Date: May 6, 2008 12:30
On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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Author: GeneGene Date: May 6, 2008 12:58
"m.a.z" rocketmail.com> wrote in news:482076d5$0
$6012$9a622dc7@news.kpnplanet.nl:
> The course also indicated that
> teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a
body and
> earthly existence.
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> Where, please?
Ditto.
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Author: ellieellie Date: May 6, 2008 13:02
On May 6, 12:30 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:> On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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> gmail.com> wrote:>>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>>>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>>>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a ...
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: May 6, 2008 13:07
On May 6, 3:02 pm, ellie yahoo.com> wrote:> On May 6, 12:30 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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>>>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely ...
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Author: GeneGene Date: May 6, 2008 13:07
> Here is where we disagree. They are only errors BECAUSE the
ego sees
> them.
Error is a lack of love. If love is not present, but the ego
does not note this, it still is not present. You can make an
idol of an unholy relationship, and deny there is any lack of
love, to no avail.
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: May 6, 2008 13:11
On May 6, 2:58 pm, Gene chewbacca.org> wrote:> "m.a.z" rocketmail.com> wrote in news:482076d5$0
> $6012$9a622...@news.kpnplanet.nl:
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>>> The course also indicated that
>> teachers will maintain imperfections so they can maintain a
> body and
>> earthly existence.
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>> Where, please?
>
> Ditto.
I believe there are couple of places where its indicated that a fully
awaken mind can not maintain the dream and the body,though its perhaps
reading in a bit much to say they imperfections are deliberate to
maintain exisitence.
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Author: Reality ScanReality Scan Date: May 6, 2008 13:15
On May 6, 2:30 pm, Deborah pumpetypump.com> wrote:> On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Reality Scan
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> gmail.com> wrote:>>On May 6, 1:34 pm, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>> On May 6, 8:24 am, "Pieter" wrote:
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>>>>>> As such "changing beliefs," is at best an temporary expedient to give
>>>>>> up all beliefs for knowledge. Hence its gross simplification to
>>>>>> articulate course based notions of healing the mind in terms of
>>>>>> changing beliefs and thus changing perception. Rather what is being
>>>>>> healed and corrected by the miracles are foundational thoughts largely
>>>>>> beyond our awareness, which in turn create a thought system of sin
>>>>>> which we generally use without awareness, and which creates a ...
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